View Poll Results: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

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  • Yes, Any further Obama backed Legislation might cause a Civil War.

    21 14.00%
  • Maybe, It matters what happens in the near future.

    34 22.67%
  • No, The U.S. is not nearing a Civil War.

    77 51.33%
  • Somewhat, People like Alex Jones will cause the nation to further split along their opinion lines.

    3 2.00%
  • Not Possibly, This is just a small uproar that will soon pass over.

    15 10.00%
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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by shadowfax220 View Post
    Actually I do, but congress being unable to come to an agreement doesn't give the president the right or responibility to circumvent them.

    He just spent four years attempting to get something passed. Some of of the original sponsors ended up voting against the very bills that they originated.But back to your post, give me an example of something that he is in the process of circumventing.
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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by Whipsnade View Post
    He just spent four years attempting to get something passed. Some of of the original sponsors ended up voting against the very bills that they originated.But back to your post, give me an example of something that he is in the process of circumventing.
    He directed DHS not to deport undocumented immigrants brought here as children who meet certain other requirements.

    He issued conditional waivers from the workfare requirements of the 1996 welfare law.

    He issued waivers giving states greater flexibility in meeting the requirements of the No Child Left Behind law enacted in 2001.

    He instructed the Justice Department to no longer enforce the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act.

    He issued a presidential memorandum effectively overturning a congressional ban on federal research into the cause of gun violence.

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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    I believe the political division in this nation is coming to an impasse and will eventually spark conflict. There is no way this nation will unify with this much tension going on. Liberals at consrvatives throats, vice versa. There's a certain wall we're all balancing on that will eventually fall. We should expect a coming conflict even if we're expecting it to happen between the next 1-20 years.

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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    All rather unlikely IMO, and anyone who is crazy enough to try and go to war with the government over gun control would not last long, nor have enough numbers, nor support. People's lives will continue, you will still be able to go to the store and buy food, and things would still be normal, so no widespread support would manifest.
    what makes you think so? In Chicago where gun control is tight, they are setting a new record on murder rates.

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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    what makes you think so? In Chicago where gun control is tight, they are setting a new record on murder rates.
    A favorite meme of the gun fanatics, who for some reason fail to acknowledge that Chicago, like other urban centers, does not have a big fence around it. You know, this is America where people are free to travel where ever they want to, where Americans aren't stopped randomly along highways to see if they are carrying a ****-load of guns. (well most Americans aren't stopped randomly, there's still that "driving while black" problem), and where it is real easy to pay someone to travel down to southern Illinois and pick up what ever a gang banger desires.

    It's not like the street punks care about their weapons, guns are tools for committing crimes, use once and throw away - buy another one.
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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by shadowfax220 View Post
    He directed DHS not to deport undocumented immigrants brought here as children who meet certain other requirements.

    He issued conditional waivers from the workfare requirements of the 1996 welfare law.

    He issued waivers giving states greater flexibility in meeting the requirements of the No Child Left Behind law enacted in 2001.

    He instructed the Justice Department to no longer enforce the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act.

    He issued a presidential memorandum effectively overturning a congressional ban on federal research into the cause of gun violence.
    Its hardly circumventing when you bypass a traffic accident on a freeway.Same thing with a dysfunctional congress, if they wont govern(see record number of non bills passed)the only thing left is to take every LEGAL step available to GOVERN.
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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    A favorite meme of the gun fanatics, who for some reason fail to acknowledge that Chicago, like other urban centers, does not have a big fence around it. You know, this is America where people are free to travel where ever they want to, where Americans aren't stopped randomly along highways to see if they are carrying a ****-load of guns. (well most Americans aren't stopped randomly, there's still that "driving while black" problem), and where it is real easy to pay someone to travel down to southern Illinois and pick up what ever a gang banger desires.

    It's not like the street punks care about their weapons, guns are tools for committing crimes, use once and throw away - buy another one.
    Another meme from the ignorant that do not want to acknowledge facts that the windy city is a sesspool of criminal activity

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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Another meme from the ignorant that do not want to acknowledge facts that the windy city is a sesspool of criminal activity

    Uh huh, like totally ignorant am I. But in the future when replying to one of my posts please try, even though you might find it difficult, to respond to what I actually wrote and not to some words that may be found only in your brain and not on the computer screen.


    My point in the earlier post being that no matter how stringent gun control laws might be in Chicago, they will do little good in stopping gun crime when all one has to do is drive about an hour away from the South Side and buy whatever type of firearm one wants. OR as I wrote earlier - "Chicago, like other urban centers, does not have a big fence around it"
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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Uh huh, like totally ignorant am I. But in the future when replying to one of my posts please try, even though you might find it difficult, to respond to what I actually wrote and not to some words that may be found only in your brain and not on the computer screen.


    My point in the earlier post being that no matter how stringent gun control laws might be in Chicago, they will do little good in stopping gun crime when all one has to do is drive about an hour away from the South Side and buy whatever type of firearm one wants. OR as I wrote earlier - "Chicago, like other urban centers, does not have a big fence around it"
    Get real, they don't even have to leave Cicero.

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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Get real, they don't even have to leave Cicero.

    A couple of problems with your 'hilarious' ()response

    1) Cicero ain't Chicago, it is the same urban area but it is a separate municipality

    2) As Cicero is part of the same urban area, local police probably coordinate with Chicago police. It is less likely that a Chicago resident could legally purchase a firearm that falls under the restrictions in Chicago law. 'Street' buys could be done in Chicago - so why drive to Cicero.

    3) Driving an hour out of the city puts a gun buyer into a region with less thoughts about complying with Chicago law or statutes.

    4) Mentioning Cicero as an attempted rebuttal of my earlier point about the lack of a fence around Chicago just kinda, you know, totally destroys your original point about how Chicago has super-strict laws regarding gun ownership and yet has a very high murder rate. So what is your point?

    Laws on gun ownership in America don't do any good in suppressing gun crime because Americans can travel freely, therefore - why bother? Is that what you are trying to say? or perhaps there is some other motive behind you referring to Chicago's crime problem. ?????
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
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