View Poll Results: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

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  • Yes, Any further Obama backed Legislation might cause a Civil War.

    21 14.00%
  • Maybe, It matters what happens in the near future.

    34 22.67%
  • No, The U.S. is not nearing a Civil War.

    77 51.33%
  • Somewhat, People like Alex Jones will cause the nation to further split along their opinion lines.

    3 2.00%
  • Not Possibly, This is just a small uproar that will soon pass over.

    15 10.00%
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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    I don't argue that the debt isn't a serious problem. I support tax increases, spending cuts, and a complete redesign of our global military role.

    still, I'm not picking up a gun to kill hyperpartisans on either side. it's an idiotic solution in a first world country which has free and open elections.


    I don't plan to commit insurrection. However, knowing that it might be coming is a powerful argument to avoid being caught bY surprise when it does.

    I don't relish the idea of having roving gangs of looters take my stuff and not have to pay the price for it.

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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    So long as this delusion persists about a substantial class of people who refuse to work, and who mooch off the efforts of others, then we will never have real political progress. There is no fact in this assertion. There are not two kinds of people, hardworking and lazy. There's really only the hardworking kind. The latter kind is a fictional construct created to justify blaming poor people for being poor, so as to allow a person to rationalize not helping them. So long as we allow the one of the main political mantras in this country to be that the poor deserve to be poor because they are of low moral fiber and will not take the same opportunities that we take, we cannot make progress. So long as we make decisions based on fantasy, rather than reality, we will never make significant enough to change to bring people up out of poverty, expand the middle class in this country, and build a strong economic force that can keep the United States on top for the next several centuries.

    As to a civil war? I don't know. I can think of three situations where one might happen.

    All the bigots, crazies, and Tea Party types running around keep threatening to rise up in a revolt, but they would surely lose. Their war would be with the entire structure of the American government, and basically to secure lots of freedoms for themselves and to destroy them for anyone else. It's not righteous and they would be completely alone in it.

    Keep kicking the poor so much and they might rise up, and they would have a legit cause that a lot of others might take up. Nothing like desperate times to make people take desperate measures. I don't know if they would be alone in their actions. A lot of people feel that great injustice is being done to the poor of this country, being kept off the social ladder, with no means to advance. But I don't know if they feel that way enough to take up arms when they are not affected. It could go either way.

    The increased militarization and "security" of our country might continue and lead to real fascist policies, which could lead to a revolution against the government. That one would be a lot trickier to win, since it's the scenario where there would be the greatest divide between government and people. The former has far more resources. That's the revolution that the gun folks want to fight, but it's the least likely to happen, and also probably the hardest to win, since we would be that much further from a free society by then. Rather than fight it, I'd rather stop it from coming in the first place. I don't see how any political ideology can include more surveillance on people, searching people and invading their privacy. The government should not be in the business of spying on people, not with cameras, not tapping our phones, not reading our e-mails, not scanning our bodies at the airport, nor stopping and hassling us on the street without cause.

    Either way, change will come slowly, and slow change is a pretty solid deterrent against drastic actions. I don't think any kind of revolt or civil war is likely to happen.



    You seem to like to place thoughts in the minds of others.

    What thoughts are in your head? What is the path to the solution? It seems that obama and all who follow him love to point out how wrong their opponents are without ever proposing a solution.

    What is your solution?

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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Actually, I think since Bush it's been a severe divide. In the last two administrations I've seen us closer to a new fracturing than any time in my lifetime and even through reading the history post the actual Civil War. During the Clinton years there was heated rhetoric but nowhere near the pure hatred I've seen since 2000.
    Yea that Civil Rights Vietnam war era was much better.

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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    You might need a dictionary. Paraphrasing is changing the words used, while reflecting the idea the words were meant to convey. I can understand you might be confused, you probably didn't follow the "paraphrasing in context of motivation" concept, but that's okay. Not my problem.
    No, I don't need a dictionary. You didn't paraphrase; you manufactured a false quote, and you're so immature that you're creating even more fiction here. Quit while you're behind: You've already lost the respect of every person of integrity posting on this thread.

    Or go ahead and continue to dig even though you've already reached rock-bottom.

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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    so.....gets points for that...

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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Thats great and I applaud your civic duties but why are you telling me this? I gave you links of people that seem to be planing on a civil war.
    There are 300million people in this country, it's not that difficult to find a handful of people at one extreme of any subject, especially one that is hot off the presses. With this issue being so current there are a lot of generalizations flying around, and one of them seems to be that them crazy irrational gun toten second amendment folks is looking to revolt.

    It's simply not the case. I'm telling you what the hundred or so people I met with last week are thinking, and it certainly wasn't finding a way to battle with the federal government. Thing is, things don't seem to be changing for the better and people are getting scared. The overwhelming oplnion seems to be that the government is not going to be able to help anybody soon and we are going to have to take care of ourselves. If your home is being robbed in Detroit, how long does it take for the police to arrive? That would be an example of a government not being able to protect it's citizens. We're not looking to take over, we're trying to keep things from completely unraveling. The government is more than capable of destroying itself. It's the people we're concerned with.
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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    There are 300million people in this country, it's not that difficult to find a handful of people at one extreme of any subject, especially one that is hot off the presses. With this issue being so current there are a lot of generalizations flying around, and one of them seems to be that them crazy irrational gun toten second amendment folks is looking to revolt.

    It's simply not the case. I'm telling you what the hundred ornso people I met with last week are thinking, and it certainly wasn't finding a way to battle with the federal government. Thing is, things don't seem to be changing for the better and people are getting scared. The overwhelming oplnion seems to be that the government is not going to be able to help anybody soon and we are going to have to take care of ourselves. If your home is being robbed in Detroit, how long does it take for the police to arrive? That would be an example of a government not being able to protect it's citizens. We're not looking to take over, we're trying to keep things from completely unraveling. The government is more than capable of destroying itself. It's the people we're concerned with.
    Im a gun owner and a strong supporter of the 2nd Amendment. All I did was link some people that seem to be planing for a Civil War. I did not say that us gun owners were wanting to start a Civil War I said that crazies on the right seem to want to. Personally I think they will be just as successful as the occupiers on starting unrest that could lead to Civil War. You do remember those occupiers right? If you dig deep those were those idiots in parks thinking that they were starting a new government.

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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Im a gun owner and a strong supporter of the 2nd Amendment. All I did was link some people that seem to be planing for a Civil War. I did not say that us gun owners were wanting to start a Civil War I said that crazies on the right seem to want to. Personally I think they will be just as successful as the occupiers on starting unrest that could lead to Civil War. You do remember those occupiers right? If you dig deep those were those idiots in parks thinking that they were starting a new government.
    My apologies, I misinterpreted your intent. Lately there has been a lot of new threads pointing out a few extremists and using them to label all gun owners as that extreme. The intent seems to be working, even on me.

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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    My apologies, I misinterpreted your intent. Lately there has been a lot of new threads pointing out a few extremists and using them to label all gun owners as that extreme. The intent seems to be working, even on me.
    Thank you.
    I think that we should not deny that crazies exist and that we should do what is in our power to fight the crazies since they are being used against law abiding citizens that just happen to own firearms.

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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Thank you.
    I think that we should not deny that crazies exist and that we should do what is in our power to fight the crazies since they are being used against law abiding citizens that just happen to own firearms.
    Well depending on what Obama comes out with tomorrow we might get to find out who those people are.

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