View Poll Results: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

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  • Yes, Any further Obama backed Legislation might cause a Civil War.

    21 14.00%
  • Maybe, It matters what happens in the near future.

    34 22.67%
  • No, The U.S. is not nearing a Civil War.

    77 51.33%
  • Somewhat, People like Alex Jones will cause the nation to further split along their opinion lines.

    3 2.00%
  • Not Possibly, This is just a small uproar that will soon pass over.

    15 10.00%
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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lukas105 View Post
    Do you think the United States is approaching an upcoming Civil War? Or maybe we will just become more and more divided?
    This period of history is far more akin to the early 1850's than it is the later decade that gave us the Civil War.

    A lot will depend on the next four years. Will the opposition party continue to swing to the far right? Will those on the far right become even more hostile and uncooperative? Will they then abandon the battleground of internet message boards and actually get involved in politics?

    We will see.
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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    And where did you come up with that figure?

    Only the very fringe far right think there is a need for a civil war. The far right only make up less than 1% of the electorate, so it only stands to reason that the very fringe far right are just a small fraction of 1%


    How many does it take?

    Certainly more than a tiny fraction of 1%!
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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    There are many other things that would have to happen before any type of armed conflict arose.
    To collect everyone's arms, they would first have to register every firearm owned by a law abiding citizen.
    (The Criminals are already breaking the law by having firearms, what's one more?)
    After Registration, they would have to collect the arms. (I am not sure who does this, not a safe job)
    Along the way they would have to prosecute anyone who did not comply.
    If even 10% of the nation is strongly opposed, look for a lot of hung Juries,and Jury Nullification.
    If enough Juries nullify a law, it starts to have the weight of case law.
    Voting the rascals out, and nullifying unconstitutional laws.

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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lukas105 View Post
    Do you think the United States is approaching an upcoming Civil War? Or maybe we will just become more and more divided?
    I know a lot of people who are angry about the way things are being run, but I don't know anybody who is angry enough to pick up a gun and do something about it.

    Most Americans are far too apathetic for that to happen.
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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    Yes, that's why I stepped in, and corrected you. You're welcome.

    At the same time, it's great you understand that you're dishonest! Getting past denial is the first step

    Now, how about this, you go back, admit Paschendale's post intimidated you, and then you address it.

    I'm not holding my breath though. I can already see you complaining that there's nothing to address, or that Paschendale's post doesn't merit a reply. Don't worry though, at this point, we all expect you to ignore a substantive debate.

    What's that thing that other guy says all the time? Dodge noted?

    Well, your dodge here is noted.

    P.S. You could surprise us all, gain some credibility and some respect if you address his post.
    I agree with everything you're saying but changing his quote...nnnno, that was bad. I abhored it when people have done that to me and it undermines the integrity of debate and entire forum if they allow it. Please don't do that again.

    But he's right, Thrilla, you were dismissive and lazy and that other fellow didn't deserve that.

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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Only the very fringe far right think there is a need for a civil war. The far right only make up less than 1% of the electorate, so it only stands to reason that the very fringe far right are just a small fraction of 1%

    Certainly more than a tiny fraction of 1%!
    I think there is a need and I am not on the far right. But then again, I see any form of socialism the greatest threat to mankind and anything that fights socialism in any form is very much needed, especially right now. Maybe that makes you think I am extreme right, but I am not, they are only allies of convenience in the fight against socialism.

    On the traditional scale that you get from those little quizzes, I come out slightly right but close to center and slightly authoritarian but also still close to center. However some of my beliefs don't fit onto the traditional scale with only two dimensions. Create a scale with 4 or 5 Dimensions, I might be able to be defined by such things.
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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No, we don't do that here. Changing the posts of others is not an acceptable debate/discussion technique here. By doing so you have invalidated anything further you have to say on the topic.
    Sometimes I do that by accident when I am trying to cut down a long post or take out a link or something like that because I find it annoying to have really long posts reposted in quotes when someone is just responding to a small portion of it, but I like to have the part I am responding to there for other commentators to see what I am responding to.

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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    I think there is a need and I am not on the far right. But then again, I see any form of socialism the greatest threat to mankind and anything that fights socialism in any form is very much needed, especially right now. Maybe that makes you think I am extreme right, but I am not, they are only allies of convenience in the fight against socialism.

    On the traditional scale that you get from those little quizzes, I come out slightly right but close to center and slightly authoritarian but also still close to center. However some of my beliefs don't fit onto the traditional scale with only two dimensions. Create a scale with 4 or 5 Dimensions, I might be able to be defined by such things.

    I had already gathered you were a 5th dimension kind of guy!
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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Sometimes I do that by accident when I am trying to cut down a long post or take out a link or something like that because I find it annoying to have really long posts reposted in quotes when someone is just responding to a small portion of it, but I like to have the part I am responding to there for other commentators to see what I am responding to.
    Thats different because you're not changing the words and anyone who wants to see the entire quote can click on to find it. What he did was wrong. I hope he understands that and doesn't do it again.

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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    There won't be a second civil war because Americans will be too busy at the mall and watching episodes of The Real Housewives to actually do anything.
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