View Poll Results: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

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  • Yes, Any further Obama backed Legislation might cause a Civil War.

    21 14.00%
  • Maybe, It matters what happens in the near future.

    34 22.67%
  • No, The U.S. is not nearing a Civil War.

    77 51.33%
  • Somewhat, People like Alex Jones will cause the nation to further split along their opinion lines.

    3 2.00%
  • Not Possibly, This is just a small uproar that will soon pass over.

    15 10.00%
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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    dear lord, you can't even get the basic facts correct.
    no, he did not respond to me.. he responded to Code.

    do you understand how ****ing arrogant you sound?.... who the **** are you to tell me what I'm thinking?
    sorry chum, you don't get to make **** up about me and pass it off as fact....you do not know what my thoughts are, you have no way of knowing... stop pretending you do.

    more lies.
    Pasch didn't respond to me....and yes, you did pass off your words as mine.... you attributed your words to me... no amount of spinning with allow you to escape the truth.
    and again, do not pretend to know my motivation.. you do not.. you are woefully ignorant as to anything i'm thinking.

    I happen to know those words were not mine, I am not confused in the least over whose words those are... I have no problem setting hte record straight, despite your attempts to further your lies.
    I happen to know what my motivation is....you do not, you have no way of knowing , yet you still try to claim, as fact, that you hold this knowledge..... your are not short on arrogance, that's for goddamn sure.

    you are not important... i'll sleep well no matter how dishonest you want to be.

    ahh gee, and here you are claiming to know what i'm thinking again.

    give it up dude, you are not a good liar, nor are you a good mind reader.


    I'm sure you believe you can read minds.
    I stopped reading your post after you started devolving into vulgarity

    Where have we seen that before?

    Anyhow, I've had enough fun with you. You really need to work on your rhetorical skills, and you lose your head pretty easily. You should work on that. Though, if you didn't, it still works for me. A good bit of fun
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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I love watching you trying to tango by yourself. You changed somebody else's words. You've tried to back-pedal by describing this as "paraphrasing," and if you truly love "cognitive science," then you surely hope to serve the integrity that intellectual rigor requires.

    So man up. You thought you were being clever, you were called on it, and now it's time to admit what you did. You weren't "paraphrasing" at all; you were inventing a fake quote.
    You might need a dictionary. Paraphrasing is changing the words used, while reflecting the idea the words were meant to convey. I can understand you might be confused, you probably didn't follow the "paraphrasing in context of motivation" concept, but that's okay. Not my problem.
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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    I hear who is talking about it. Sat in a restaurant last week with almost 100 other people who are active members CERT, medical first responders and search and rescue people who were talking about it. What we were discussing was how we keep people safe when those who are living in the cities decide to head out to the mountains to escape the looting and military occupation that will follow a financial crisis. What we mostly train for are natural emergencies, the three biggest concerns here are tornadoes, wild fires and ice storms. But we have to be realistic about other scenarios as well. What do you do when thousands of people flee toward your rural community with a half a tank of gas and a sandwich? Our resources would be wiped out in a big hurry.

    BTW, this group started off as the Georgia State Militia back before the "M" word was scary. The state charter actually discusses it and it used to be by county and responsible to the governor's office. But then the state, in the aftermath of a few nutjobs who called themselves militia but did not appear on any state lists anywhere, did some bad things (planned but never executed) discontinued the recognition of the groups thru the state, at least on an official basis. So you know what happened? We contacted FEMA and partnered with them for training. Yup. The group still exists and is growing, except now we get our training fro free thru FEMA and GEMA. The term "militia" still exists in the group's charter, except now we response to FEMA and GEMA but are largely autonomous. Our last alert was for an elderly man (I knew him) who wandered off and died from hypothermia. The call came from the sheriff's office in another county and was passed to us by our sheriff's department. This is a militia group that works for the better interest of the community and hand in hand with local authorities.
    Thats great and I applaud your civic duties but why are you telling me this? I gave you links of people that seem to be planing on a civil war.

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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Nope. The only people who I've heard seriously hypothesize civil war are those who, in their difficultly accepting that Obama won re-election and frustration with his approach to the 2nd amendment, have abandoned the political process solidified by the Constitution they apparently hold dear, think they need to kill people to get their way. In other words, adults with guns are throwing temper tantrums.
    Actually, I think since Bush it's been a severe divide. In the last two administrations I've seen us closer to a new fracturing than any time in my lifetime and even through reading the history post the actual Civil War. During the Clinton years there was heated rhetoric but nowhere near the pure hatred I've seen since 2000.
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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    All rather unlikely IMO, and anyone who is crazy enough to try and go to war with the government over gun control would not last long, nor have enough numbers, nor support. People's lives will continue, you will still be able to go to the store and buy food, and things would still be normal, so no widespread support would manifest.
    Don't count on this. It's not the military that would be a target, and people are forced to surrender their rights or be criminals they could go to desperate measures, once those people start to be imprisoned or injured you could see an insurgency effect. It's not a guarantee but neither is the guarantee that it won't happen, especially if Americans are pushed too far.
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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    I don't think one will start tomorrow, but there is a moderately high amount of tension between factions in the US at the moment and it has been building. While this opens the potential, in order for that potential to manifest into reality, there would have to be leaders of the "rebellion" that people will listen to, have a plan already and have a large number of people willing to go along with their plan. Otherwise, without organization and a goal, it would not be a "rebellion" or "Civil War" but just small groups and individuals engaged in civil disobedience.

    While the potential exists, is high and growing higher, the organization and leadership to bring it about is not in evidence. At least, I haven't seen any evidence of it.
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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    The fact is the only way someone could take over the government would be for many high ranking military officials, taking a splinter group of soldiers, and fighting against the loyal armed forces, it would not be a civilian thing, that would get shut down right away.
    I have a lot of buddies who are or were military, they take the uphold part of their service oath very seriously. It wouldn't be hard military targets, politicians would be though in the most likely scenario, sure, they have security but what happens when a decent portion of 314 million people become angry? It soon becomes impossible to identify the citizen from the assassin.
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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    This is how our government was set up.

    Though I do wish we could go back to the days were fistfights were common among the congress, might help things
    Dueling, bring back dueling amongst the representatives but only if approved by the congress overall. Slander suit in the past? No way, 50 paces.
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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lukas105 View Post
    Do you think the United States is approaching an upcoming Civil War?
    That would be kind of difficult when less than a fraction of 1% think there is a need for a civil war.
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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    That would be kind of difficult when less than a fraction of 1% think there is a need for a civil war.
    And where did you come up with that figure? How many does it take? Somewhere around 30% of colonist in the US at the time supported that one. (figure came from a history teacher back in high school). How many wouldn't start one but would chose sides if one happened? (Like me)
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