View Poll Results: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

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  • Yes, Any further Obama backed Legislation might cause a Civil War.

    21 14.00%
  • Maybe, It matters what happens in the near future.

    34 22.67%
  • No, The U.S. is not nearing a Civil War.

    77 51.33%
  • Somewhat, People like Alex Jones will cause the nation to further split along their opinion lines.

    3 2.00%
  • Not Possibly, This is just a small uproar that will soon pass over.

    15 10.00%
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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Twentieth post and the Godwin has arrived


    What's a Godwin?

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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    No, I don't believe a civil war is imminent... but i never rule out weird **** happening.

    our federal government grows more powerful and controlling with each passing day... one day, it will be made to stop....the democratic process is seemingly incapable of doing that, but we might be surprised one day.
    might be tomorrow, might be in 100.. or 500 years... who knows.
    I would hope that the federal government would be constrained peacefully... but with such a sizable portion of the populace wanting and fighting for it to grow more powerful and controlling, my hope is not looking too good..

    I'm too old to fight anymore.... well, i'm too old to fight fair anyways.... so I won't be part of any insurrection.
    when the Obama administration passes it's gun control measures, I won't go nuts and shoot cops or anti-gun idiots... most likely, I'll be sitting her drinking coffee or whiskey at the very moment the Obama administration decides i'm a criminal.. I'll laugh a little bit, and keep on living my life as I always have.... the only thing that will change is that i'll have a few more laws to ignore or circumvent.

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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    I appreciate that. Having never owned a gun of any type, i will need to be trained on how to use it without killing myself. That would be a bad thing.

    I remember the stories of the folks in new Orleans after Katrina using rifles to keep looters out of their neighborhoods. Perched on rooftops with rifles challenging anyone who came through the entries.

    I think I will need a shot gun type of thing like you show above, a rifle, and a hand gun with stopping power.

    Then there are other stories about those armed citizens
    Post-Katrina, White Vigilantes Shot African-Americans With Impunity
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Expect to see more places like Hilton Head where every community is gated, most with their own security, and some of them have their own fire departments just to keep people out. It is just a matter of time until less rich places follow that model.
    How would the "less rich" towns and communities pay for such services?

    That would be funny, watching the IRS seize all of the real estate because no federal taxes had been paid. Also would the hilarity ensue when the locals realise that they would be paying far more in taxes to their local government than they had been paying to the feds in the past.
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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    I appreciate that. Having never owned a gun of any type, i will need to be trained on how to use it without killing myself. That would be a bad thing.

    I remember the stories of the folks in new Orleans after Katrina using rifles to keep looters out of their neighborhoods. Perched on rooftops with rifles challenging anyone who came through the entries.

    I think I will need a shot gun type of thing like you show above, a rifle, and a hand gun with stopping power.
    a gun is probably the easiest piece of machinery you'll ever have to deal with... they are very very easy to understand.


    the number one rule you'll need to follow is a very simple one that will ensure your firearm cannot do unintended harm.
    keep your finger off the trigger until you want to fire the weapon.
    without your finger on the trigger, the firearm is a useless hunk of metal.

    the rules of safe firearm handling are few and easily understood...a child of 4 or 5 can understand the rules, so I'm confident you can as well.

    getting good with your firearm is a lifelong endeavor though... i've been shootin' for 50 years or so, and i'm still working on my skills
    I've fired millions of rounds downrange.. mostly at paper, but quite a few at enemies of our nation... i've taken 4 courses at Gunsite ( when Col. Cooper was still alive).
    I shoot ,on average, about 3-5 times a month ( more now that i live in the sticks and have a range on my property)
    ..perfection still evades me... dammit.

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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Two points you make - One: You apparently know a bunch of folks suffering from paranoia

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    Two: If you "dont quite care what the government does" then it really doesn't matter in which nation you choose to live - does it?

    I havent cared for some time. Some are more preferable than others I freely admit. However as a matter of course I have decided a bit ago that what the govenment does will not hinder my effects for my familiy and for myself any further. I color outside the lines much more than I used and have dropped my loyalties. After all why be loyal to something not loyal to you. I am perfectly happy to use governments for my personal gains.

    No that dont suffer paranoia, they are quite sane and IMHO quite right. I just dont particularly care except for the instability part. Instability screws with my interests.
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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Then there are other stories about those armed citizens
    Post-Katrina, White Vigilantes Shot African-Americans With Impunity
    lots of bad stories out of that particular cesspool.
    vigilantes
    looters
    murderers
    rapists
    folks protecting their property from all comers
    and of course....government forces confiscating guns from citizens.

    low trust societies are likely to go to hell when the SHTF <shrugs>

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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lukas105 View Post
    Do you think the United States is approaching an upcoming Civil War? Or maybe we will just become more and more divided?
    A civil war? Likely not, Americans are fat and lazy and care not about the trials and necessities to keep freedom.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    I wonder too, Ikari, how many care what's happening...and how many will realize only when it's too late that this matters.

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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    Sorry, my administrative assistant couldn't make it here today.

    My point is that the citizenry of Germany leading up to the take over by Hitler was giving away rights and finally it had slid to the point that there were no rights at all.

    When the problems to be addressed grow beyond the means of the people to address them, they seek help from the places they suppose they can find it. Now, as then, the problems are growing so great that the populace will willingly give away all of their rights just to be able to eat.
    wake me up when they suspend elections and dissolve the government. that's tyranny. at my last check, the 2016 race is still on. go vote in it. no violent civil war necessary.

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