View Poll Results: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

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  • Yes, Any further Obama backed Legislation might cause a Civil War.

    21 14.00%
  • Maybe, It matters what happens in the near future.

    34 22.67%
  • No, The U.S. is not nearing a Civil War.

    77 51.33%
  • Somewhat, People like Alex Jones will cause the nation to further split along their opinion lines.

    3 2.00%
  • Not Possibly, This is just a small uproar that will soon pass over.

    15 10.00%
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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    One word... Oathkeepers. A lot of current and recent service military are members.


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    There is actually a bunch of those kind of groups.

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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by BMCM View Post
    Your thought process, just like those of the other like minded people stop at the " I'm gonna take up arms" point. There's a lot more involved then just that. You have to have an organized Militia which you don't. You have to have a plan, which you don't, you have to have a planned out objective, which you don't. You have to know whom your targets are, which you don't. Are you ready to destroy your neighborhood or do you have a secret hiding place. The only thing people like you have is talk. You say yu will take on the Gov. if they step too far, where's your point of no return, when do you and your militia stand up. Look at all the rights we've lost over the last several decades. Think Homeland Security, TSA, where's the line for you? I'm really curious, Where's the line for you?

    Glad that you know me so well, that you know all my plans and intentions and capabilities. Now, could you kindly point to anything I said indicating that I was one of those who'd be doing the armed rebellion thing?



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    Not gonna recite it for you; some of the folks who have been here a long while know some of it. I've had an interesting life and quite a bit of it involved professions where violence was likely.

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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Nope not going to happen...theres always an unhappy group that stamps their feet...

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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    That doesn't really work all that well when the problem is interpretation pf the constitution.
    Yeah, that's why I said the second part. Too damned bad man

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    Well it's pretty clear they gave themselves power that they were never intended to have long ago. My positions are however fine and I have no reason to re-evaluate them at this time.
    Obviously the courts don't agree with you.

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    I could, but it wouldn't make any difference.
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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    Yeah, that's why I said the second part. Too damned bad man
    Too damn bad they ignored the law? Ok?

    Obviously the courts don't agree with you.
    If they're at all knowledgeable about their job they would be forced to agree with me. Ruling in my favor however is another matter.

    I could, but it wouldn't make any difference.
    The thing is you can't actually do it.

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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Too damn bad they ignored the law? Ok?
    Too bad you think so.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    If they're at all knowledgeable about their job they would be forced to agree with me. Ruling in my favor however is another matter.
    I have a few responses to this. First, if you were even close to that knowledgeable, you would probably be doing something more worthwhile than whining about how you don't like the decisions on an internet forum. Second, from my own observations, you're clearly not that well-versed. Third, I can't take you the least bit seriously right now, because of the prior two points.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The thing is you can't actually do it.
    Whatever you want buddy
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    Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by BMCM
    Who am I: I spent 25 years in the U.S.Navy EOD. I've crawled thru the mud,blood and tears. I've planned and executed missions into countries you've never even heard of. I do have a pretty good idea of what I speak.
    I was the bureau chief of the CIA station in Vladivostok towards the end of the Cold War. My codename was "Captain Counterinsurgency". I've garroted more people than you've had hot dinners.

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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by Whipsnade View Post
    1st Protects freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and freedom of the press, as well as the right to assemble and petition the government. Nope, that hasn't changed are is it on the horizon.
    Given the Free Zone bans on College campuses I would not say there has been no change. Furthermore, the establishment of "hate" crimes where people who were accused of a crime get extra penalties if it is believed were done by some sort of prejudice. And with respect to acting against bullying some suggest to limit the 1st Amendment basses of content of the speech and not over just harsh language (thoughts and beliefs that they disagree with).


    [QUOTE]2nd Protects an individual's right to bear arms.

    Full auto? Thats been on the books for years. So called assault rifles,really Semi automatics.High Capacity ninety rounder mags?Who needs these for self-defense or hunting?
    Government mandated Segregation and other Jim Crow laws was on the books for decades and recognized by the Federal Government in the military for nearly as long. The purpose of the 2nd Amendment is to have the capability to overthrow a Tyrannical government and while full auto is generally not practical but is for the benefit for suppressive fire where needed. Semi auto is the principal fire arm of the US military and must be available to the general public for the same purpose.
    I have NEVER heard any talk about repealing my,and your conceal carry rights; maybe I move in different circle than you do though.
    Lets be clear there are people in the House and Senate which do believe that American citizens should not be able to bear arms or even own them. They are in a minority now but hold positions of power in the Committees and with the present set up where bills are produced in the 11th hour and are not read by the members of the Legeslative Branch (since they are not able to) such blanket bans are possible after all did not the Obama Care bill became law since it would have to pass to read it?
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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    Too bad you think so.
    Tell me about the commerce clause again or how about that general welfare clause?

    I have a few responses to this. First, if you were even close to that knowledgeable, you would probably be doing something more worthwhile than whining about how you don't like the decisions on an internet forum.
    I'm not sure what there is to do about it. Have any ideas that don't involve going to the courts thinking they will care their own interests are the problem?

    Second, from my own observations, you're clearly not that well-versed.
    I have never seen anything from you that I remember, so..

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    Re: Is the United States Nearing a Civil War?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Tell me about the commerce clause again or how about that general welfare clause?
    Again, too bad you think so.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I'm not sure what there is to do about it. Have any ideas that don't involve going to the courts thinking they will care their own interests are the problem?
    Your job, not mine. I'm not the least bit interested in what you think is wrong with the court's interpretation of the Constitution.

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I have never seen anything from you that I remember, so..
    I'm not the one claiming to know more about the Constitution than the Supreme Court.
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