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    Re: Is The Pledge of Allegiance a Form of Brainwashing/Indoctrination?

    Not NO, but Hell no !
    Indoctrination, propaganda, brainwashing ignites negative connotations.
    YES, I favor rebellion, but at the beginning of each school day is not the place nor time..
    A degree of nationalism is good.....its a very competitive world ...I'll bet that the Chinese and Russians have their patriotic practices.

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    Re: Is The Pledge of Allegiance a Form of Brainwashing/Indoctrination?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    It makes sense. Socialists hate America, and Libertarians hate jingoism. Stands to reason that they'd both hate American jingoism.
    Why do people say these things, why do they spread these lies ??
    Socialists do NOT hate America...of course, there are exceptions..
    But they do abhor extremism and imperialism....

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    Re: Is The Pledge of Allegiance a Form of Brainwashing/Indoctrination?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Why do people say these things, why do they spread these lies ??
    Socialists do NOT hate America...of course, there are exceptions..
    But they do abhor extremism and imperialism....
    People are still caught up in the communist hysteria, where they associate communism and socialism as 1.
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    Re: Is The Pledge of Allegiance a Form of Brainwashing/Indoctrination?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    And it was modified to hand over the heart. Without the Hitler connotation, your "spooky" connection would have no impact.
    No "Spooky" connection, just the reality of the foundation and intention of the pledge.

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    Re: Is The Pledge of Allegiance a Form of Brainwashing/Indoctrination?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pagan View Post
    No "Spooky" connection, just the reality of the foundation and intention of the pledge.
    Right, because since Hitler adopts a salute much later, the gesture is therefore bad.
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    Re: Is The Pledge of Allegiance a Form of Brainwashing/Indoctrination?

    Only if you want it to be. You can always opt not to say it.
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    Re: Is The Pledge of Allegiance a Form of Brainwashing/Indoctrination?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Right, because since Hitler adopts a salute much later, the gesture is therefore bad.
    It's obvious you just don't get it,

    I suggest doing a bit of research on Frances Bellamy and his goals of bringing about a Socialist Ethiopia. Bellamy was also a self-proclaimed national socialist and a member of the "Nationalism" movement and a vice president of its socialist auxiliary group, whose members wanted the federal government to nationalize the American economy. Also take a look at his cousin author Edward Bellamy and his work, he wrote a number of socialist novels and was popular in his day.

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    Re: Is The Pledge of Allegiance a Form of Brainwashing/Indoctrination?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pagan View Post
    It's obvious you just don't get it,

    I suggest doing a bit of research on Frances Bellamy and his goals of bringing about a Socialist Ethiopia. Bellamy was also a self-proclaimed national socialist and a member of the "Nationalism" movement and a vice president of its socialist auxiliary group, whose members wanted the federal government to nationalize the American economy. Also take a look at his cousin author Edward Bellamy and his work, he wrote a number of socialist novels and was popular in his day.
    You mean the image that happened to be on Wikipedia? No thanks. You're still doing this from a simplistic and ridiculous set of standards.
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    Re: Is The Pledge of Allegiance a Form of Brainwashing/Indoctrination?

    They still said the pledge of allegiance when I was in grade school. I don't think it's a bad thing, as long as you leave the god part out of it. I liked the US when I was a kid and I think saying the pledge helped that. As an adult, I have a different attitude. In my state, they are trying to pass legislation to make it mandatory to say the pledge in schools again, so it's a hot topic where I am at.
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    Re: Is The Pledge of Allegiance a Form of Brainwashing/Indoctrination?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    You mean the image that happened to be on Wikipedia? No thanks. You're still doing this from a simplistic and ridiculous set of standards.
    Aaaah no, just do a simple google on Frances Bellamy, as I said stated along with his cousin Edward. There's a lot of information out there and a simple google will give you a clue.

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