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    Re: Is The Pledge of Allegiance a Form of Brainwashing/Indoctrination?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    We often disagree on many points but here we agree on one thing that indoctrination is never a good thing
    Yeah I've got this crazy idea that concepts should stand on their own merit and not be forced down kids' throats. Even if I were religious, I would never indoctrinate my kids from birth. I want them to learn to think for themselves, and when they're ready, they can make their own decision about what to believe.

    This is no different. Why don't instead of having these kids repeat over and over again how awesome America is, we actually do them a favor and make this place awesome. Then we might actually have true loyalty, instead of rehearsed loyalty.
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    I've got to say that it is shadenfreudalicious to see the rich and famous fucquewads on the coast suffering from the fires.

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    Re: Is The Pledge of Allegiance a Form of Brainwashing/Indoctrination?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Yeah I've got this crazy idea that concepts should stand on their own merit and not be forced down kids' throats. Even if I were religious, I would never indoctrinate my kids from birth. I want them to learn to think for themselves, and when they're ready, they can make their own decision about what to believe.

    This is no different. Why don't instead of having these kids repeat over and over again how awesome America is, we actually do them a favor and make this place awesome. Then we might actually have true loyalty, instead of rehearsed loyalty.
    Agree 100%
    Forcing something down someones throat does nothing but make them a "yes man" and harms innovation and withholds from the democratic process, withholds freedom, and withholds new ideas, and withholds from progress of the republic itself.


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    Re: Is The Pledge of Allegiance a Form of Brainwashing/Indoctrination?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Agree 100%
    Forcing something down someones throat does nothing but make them a "yes man" and harms innovation and withholds from the democratic process, withholds freedom, and withholds new ideas, and withholds from progress of the republic itself.
    Sieg Heil was a pledge of allegiance to Hitler, the American pledge of allegiance is the same however Hitler is instead the American government. Why is America the Land of the Free again?
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    Re: Is The Pledge of Allegiance a Form of Brainwashing/Indoctrination?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spriggs05 View Post
    Why is America the Land of the Free again?
    It was just a catchy phrase that used to hold some truth that is still thrown around.

    I was actually suspended for not standing for the Texas pledge when I was in highschool.
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    Re: Is The Pledge of Allegiance a Form of Brainwashing/Indoctrination?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post

    I was actually suspended for not standing for the Texas pledge when I was in highschool.
    Thats F****** stupid, the only pledge i have had to do is to say that I was going to concentrate in class.
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    Re: Is The Pledge of Allegiance a Form of Brainwashing/Indoctrination?

    Pledge of Allegiance was written by a radical socialist, so yes I say it's a form of Brainwashing
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    Re: Is The Pledge of Allegiance a Form of Brainwashing/Indoctrination?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pagan View Post
    Pledge of Allegiance was written by a radical socialist, so yes I say it's a form of Brainwashing
    Just because it's written by a socialist or another reason?
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    Re: Is The Pledge of Allegiance a Form of Brainwashing/Indoctrination?

    Eh, brainwashing?
    Probably not.


    Indoctrination? Yeah.


    Don't really have a problem with it.
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    Re: Is The Pledge of Allegiance a Form of Brainwashing/Indoctrination?

    No it is not. Its no different than singing the national anthem or looking at the flag. its a nationalistic gesture and is part of any society
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    Re: Is The Pledge of Allegiance a Form of Brainwashing/Indoctrination?

    it's in keeping with the foolish notion of "American exceptionalism"
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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