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Thread: Time for Alcohol Control?

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    Time for Alcohol Control?

    Considering all the talk of gun control lately, let's review the facts around alcohol and consider some further restrictions around another "death causer."
    That is alcohol.

    CDC figures on alcohol related deaths.

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    Number of alcoholic liver disease deaths: 15,183

    Number of alcohol-induced deaths, excluding accidents and homicides: 24,518
    FASTSTATS - Alcohol Use

    Quote Originally Posted by CDC
    In 2010, 10,228 people were killed in alcohol-impaired driving crashes, accounting for nearly one-third (31%) of all traffic-related deaths in the United States.

    Of the 1,210 traffic deaths among children ages 0 to 14 years in 2010, 211 (17%) involved an alcohol-impaired driver.

    In 2010, over 1.4 million drivers were arrested for driving under the influence of alcohol or narcotics.

    That's one percent of the 112 million self-reported episodes of alcohol-impaired driving among U.S. adults each year.

    Drugs other than alcohol (e.g., marijuana and cocaine) are involved in about 18% of motor vehicle driver deaths. These other drugs are often used in combination with alcohol.
    http://www.cdc.gov/motorvehiclesafet...factsheet.html

    Quote Originally Posted by WHO

    The harmful use of alcohol results in 2.5 million deaths each year.

    320 000 young people between the age of 15 and 29 die from alcohol-related causes, resulting in 9% of all deaths in that age group.

    Alcohol is the world’s third largest risk factor for disease burden; it is the leading risk factor in the Western Pacific and the Americas and the second largest in Europe.

    Alcohol is associated with many serious social and developmental issues, including violence, child neglect and abuse, and absenteeism in the workplace.
    http://www.who.int/mediacentre/facts.../en/index.html

    I propose,

    A background check system, for all alcohol purchases, supported by a fee, probably $25 per purchase.

    A limit to the amount of alcohol containers, that can be purchased per day.

    The limiting of alcohol percentages per volume, probably 5% or less.

    What say you?
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    Re: Time for Alcohol Control?

    Excellent point, well made.
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    Re: Time for Alcohol Control?

    I wish Americans abused less, but I think it is apples and oranges where each merit different discussions in a more serious way.

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    Re: Time for Alcohol Control?

    I'd say no based on my opinion that it's every person's right to destroy their own bodies with that crap, but I'm concerned about drunk driving. It'd be awesome if they would develop an alcohol sensor on cars that would detect alcohol in your breath when you put they key in the ignition and then lock up the car, but I'm not sure that's possible, and it wouldn't change the millions of cars already on the road.

    At the very least, we need to be smart about it. My high school health classes did a terrible job of explaining the negative effects of alcohol - or any drug. They seemed more concerned with telling us not to have sex than actually warning us about the dangers of drugs. That's Oklahoma for you.

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    Re: Time for Alcohol Control?

    Banning alcohol won't stop its use, anymore than banning guns will stop guns from being used.

    Not to mention the war on drugs is a complete policy failure.

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    Re: Time for Alcohol Control?

    I am for lessening restrictions on alcohol for the same reasons I am for the legalization of marijuana and also the fact it played a major role in the founding of this country. Though I do think penalties for things like drunk driving should be greatly increased.

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    Re: Time for Alcohol Control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    I wish Americans abused less, but I think it is apples and oranges where each merit different discussions in a more serious way.
    The presumptive logic of many people is to save lives, reduce crime, etc.
    Those things are directly related to alcohol consumption.
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    Re: Time for Alcohol Control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vapor View Post
    I'd say no based on my opinion that it's every person's right to destroy their own bodies with that crap, but I'm concerned about drunk driving. It'd be awesome if they would develop an alcohol sensor on cars that would detect alcohol in your breath when you put they key in the ignition and then lock up the car, but I'm not sure that's possible, and it wouldn't change the millions of cars already on the road.

    At the very least, we need to be smart about it. My high school health classes did a terrible job of explaining the negative effects of alcohol - or any drug. They seemed more concerned with telling us not to have sex than actually warning us about the dangers of drugs. That's Oklahoma for you.
    How about just restricting the sale of alcohol to those 1oz shot bottles and requiring that everyone register every time they want to buy a bottle?

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    Re: Time for Alcohol Control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    The presumptive logic of many people is to save lives, reduce crime, etc.
    Those things are directly related to alcohol consumption.
    That was the exacts same argument used by prohibitionists and look how that turned out.

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    Re: Time for Alcohol Control?

    WOD is indeed a massive, destructive policy failure. Do you ever see the slightest sign that that will change?

    Just because policies fail, doesn't mean they will change. Making alcohol illegal will provide us with more employment at ATFE and maybe even a new agency could be created. It will certainly stimualte the prison business and guard jobs don't require a degree or citizenship or any of that stuff.

    No wonder I liked the OP. Brilliant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    Banning alcohol won't stop its use, anymore than banning guns will stop guns from being used.

    Not to mention the war on drugs is a complete policy failure.

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