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Time for Alcohol Control?

Should we propose further alcohol control?

  • Yes

    Votes: 4 12.1%
  • No

    Votes: 22 66.7%
  • Other

    Votes: 7 21.2%

  • Total voters
    33
And largely I agree with all that.

I am perfectly willing to accept, that with our privileges (aka "rights") and freedoms, there may be negative consequences, very bad consequences.
I'm not going to cover up that guns are dangerous, especially in the wrong hands.

I'm tired of the pile on, when it comes to guns.
Legal and responsible gun owners, can't control the irresponsible and illegal gun owners, anymore than the safe drinkers can control the unsafe drinkers.
Continuing to punish legal and responsible guns owners, for the actions of the bad, is the punishment not fitting the crime.

I agree. I mean people, and that includes you and me...are powerless over other people, places, and things for the most part. If my wife went bonkers and decided to shoot me and all the deer in the yard????

Now, we do have to try and be reasonable. Obviously we don't want people with dirty bombs, tanks and major size military artillery running around the streets. That would be a slightly unfair advantage over most law enforcement agencies, much less the average gun owner.

But I believe for the most part that the vast majority of gun owners are responsible people. If the facts were contrary to "most gun owners are responsible" then we would live like Tombstone or Deadwood days when times were virtually lawless and shoot-outs may have been common place. That's just not the case.

We live in a nation of nearly 320 million people and the stone cold truth is that there are people who are born with bad wiring...born psychopaths. They will commit horrible crimes against their follow beings regardless of laws in place. If guns were outlawed today and the government confiscated every gun possible. I know, without a doubt there would be tons of street made pipe guns being made. And I might be one person who would make my own, if necessary. I don't consider myself to be a so-called gun nut (and I've never been accused of being such - that I'm aware of), I just want the right to protect myself, my family, and my property.

I don't know what the answer is, but it's not outlawing guns and leave law abiding citizens vulnerable to people who have no regard for the law. But to be honest. I feel a sense of concern about governmental agencies of one kind or another infringing on my life (our lives), safety, and well being. Call me paranoid, but that's how it is for me.
 
Have "No Alcohol" printed on an ID?
Easy to make, of course fake ID's can overcome it, but it's far more realistic than NCIS for alcohol purchases.

:lol: I feel like a retard for not seeing that as a possible solution to the logistical problem. So simple, yet so effective. :lol:
 
Interesting thing, this state of
Texas and their laws.
Do they work ?
Yes, as, the next Texas statue will be "three strikes and you are out" , aka, in Texas, DEATH..
And, as we all know, this death penalty works well in reducing crime........
The thing is, few have the stomach for alcohol prohibition..
For many, alcohol is a necessity.
As of now, I believe we do have the "stomach" for gun control...which is nothing more than 100% background checks and restrictions on assault weapons..
And, BTW, we do have alcohol control in Pennsylvania, AKA "state stores", which the conservatives wish to do away with.
With PA's controls, how do they compare to Texas (for one) ??
We need controls, man is NOT fully developed..He has a long way to go.

EW, I don't really believe that laws in general will deter some people from doing whatever they do to others. Not here in Texas - or any other state as far as that goes.

People who have issues with alcohol usually don't think they have issues with alcohol. Consequently, many people who wind up incarcerated because of alcohol related issues don't ever really deal with the root problem, and they do the same thing over and over again...and they don't really care about expecting different results.

People who, for whatever reason, whether it be a genuine mental disorder or born a psychopath, will commit crimes against other people regardless of the social standards, norms, or laws. You know that as well as I do.

If a person is determined to harm another person. It doesn't have to be with a gun. It can be a knife, a pipe, a tree branch, a pencil...on and on. It can be with a vehicle...drunk or sober. The reasons that drive people to hurt other people are as many as there are people.

We are all virtually powerless to stop other people who are determined to hurt others...at least once. We may arrest them and put them away for life - after the fact - but after the fact is after the fact and the damage is done.

As I write this...I'm reading Fredmertzz's post below mine. He has some pretty valid points, in my humble opinion.
 
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