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Thread: Time for Alcohol Control?

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    Re: Time for Alcohol Control?

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    Alcohol serves far more of a purpose in society than guns will at least here. If a mentally ill person drinks a lot of alcohol they were probably become incapacitated, not go shoot up a school let alone hold a gun. Alcohol can be controlled by public awareness and not placing restrictions on alcohol though like I said things like drunk driving should be heavily punished.
    What purpose does consumptive alcohol serve?
    Besides the one class of wine for the antioxidants, why does anyone need to drink alcohol?

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    Re: Time for Alcohol Control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Ever since the advent of drinking and driving laws, accidents and fatalities have steadily decreased. Image the lives saved if ya'll had stricter gun laws.

    And if you killed yourself with a gun, that would be your prerogative. As long as it's only you.
    What about all the other alcohol related problems like, violence, rape and disease?
    Doesn't society have a compelling public interest to restrict alcohol, so that less people die?
    Why do you need to be able to buy large amounts of beer, wine and spirits?
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    Re: Time for Alcohol Control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Why do you need to be able to buy large amounts of beer, wine and spirits?
    Same reason I buy lots of bullets. To kill lots of people.
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    Re: Time for Alcohol Control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vapor View Post
    It'd be awesome if they would develop an alcohol sensor on cars that would detect alcohol in your breath when you put they key in the ignition and then lock up the car, but I'm not sure that's possible
    That exists and it is a mandatory in some states (Illinois, for example) for those who get DUIs.
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    Re: Time for Alcohol Control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Ever since the advent of drinking and driving laws, accidents and fatalities have steadily decreased. Image the lives saved if ya'll had stricter gun laws.
    Not to mention the government regulation of alcohol, increased taxation of alcohol, regulations limiting who may sell alcohol as well as who may purchase alcohol, the ability of local and state governments to completely ban alcohol sale and purchase if they so choose, laws which prevent people from using alcohol in public, Bans on the sale of certain types of alcoholic beverages (specifically there is a ban on alcoholic beverages which contain caffeine) etc etc etc.

    Trying to use alcohol as the basis for a satirical point about gun control is a horrible idea because alcohol is regulated far more than guns are, and there have been clear benefits from these regulations. Not to mention, most people do not find the existing regulations of alcohol absurd (they meet with little to no real resistance, at least), whereas proposed regulations of firearms that are practically identical (increased regulations with regard to the sale of firearms at gun shows, for example, bans on the sale certain types of firearms, local bans on firearms) are viewed as absurd (any proposed regulation meets with incredible resistance).

    To Harry: Terrible choice of topic to make your point. Most people are not calling for a full on prohibition of guns. And those that are seeking such have no chance of success in this country. The real threat to guns would be the people who are seeking something akin to what already exists for alcohol (regulations which have been relatively successful in producing measurable benefits, too) but not for guns.
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    Re: Time for Alcohol Control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Not to mention the government regulation of alcohol, increased taxation of alcohol, regulations limiting who may sell alcohol as well as who may purchase alcohol, the ability of local and state governments to completely ban alcohol sale and purchase if they so choose, laws which prevent people from using alcohol in public, Bans on the sale of certain types of alcoholic beverages (specifically there is a ban on alcoholic beverages which contain caffeine) etc etc etc.

    Trying to use alcohol as the basis for a satirical point about gun control is a horrible idea because alcohol is regulated far more than guns are, and there have been clear benefits from these regulations. Not to mention, most people do not find the existing regulations of alcohol absurd (they meet with little to no real resistance, at least), whereas proposed regulations of firearms that are practically identical (increased regulations with regard to the sale of firearms at gun shows, for example, bans on the sale certain types of firearms, local bans on firearms) are viewed as absurd (any proposed regulation meets with incredible resistance).
    Are you sure alcohol is far more regulated than guns are?
    Further gun regulations are met with resistance, because of the behavior and perceived intent of the regulators.

    Just because people find further regulation of alcohol absurd, does not make it so.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    To Harry: Terrible choice of topic to make your point. Most people are not calling for a full on prohibition of guns. And those that are seeking such have no chance of success in this country. The real threat to guns would be the people who are seeking something akin to what already exists for alcohol (regulations which have been relatively successful in producing measurable benefits, too) but not for guns.
    I'm not calling for prohibition of alcohol.
    I'm asking if there should be further alcohol control.
    The effects of alcohol spread farther and the benefits, are superficial at best.
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    Re: Time for Alcohol Control?

    Maybe you will need a background check to make sure that you haven't committed any felonies or alcohol related crimes.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Time for Alcohol Control?

    It already is controlled. But this is actually about guns.

    Alcohol, used as intended, is a lot less dangerous than guns when used as intended.


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    Re: Time for Alcohol Control?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    It already is controlled. But this is actually about guns.

    Alcohol, used as intended, is a lot less dangerous than guns when used as intended.
    I'm questioning how far people are willing to go with their intents to "protect society" by including other things, that also "harm society."
    Alcohol may be controlled, by how far are you willing to go to lessen the effects of alcohol on other people?
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    Re: Time for Alcohol Control?

    you'll have to pry the lowball glass out of my cold, dead hands.


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