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Is Alex Jones "Crazy"?

Ia Alex Jones "Crazy" and do people take him seriously?

  • He is crazy and i take him seriously

    Votes: 9 10.7%

  • He isnt crazy and i take him seriously

    Votes: 6 7.1%

  • He is crazy and i dont take him seriuosly

    Votes: 47 56.0%

  • He isnt crazy and i don't take him seriuosly

    Votes: 17 20.2%

  • NWO! OBAMA! REVOLUTION!

    Votes: 5 6.0%
  • Total voters
    84
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He is not crazy. Though I disagree with him on his 9-11 theory I understand why he is fed up and angry with the media and the lefts campaign to disarm Americans. The SCOTUS has ruled on the individuals right to bear arms on June 26, 2008. Here is a quote from that ruling

"The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home"

this right shal not be infringed!
 
joko104 said:
Or are you claiming the CIA dealing in drugs is "crazy" and "delusional?"
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Depends. Does the CIA get involved with drug dealing? Definately. If you're looking for a weak link in an organization, go for the druggie. Is it a major operation? No. It's an incidental thing that happens as a matter of convenience in espionage.
 
Never heard of him before. Didn't watch the vid 'cuz I'm not interested in seeing two idiots argue.

Whoever he is, he doesn't speak for me.
 
BmanMcfly said:
Check the facts that he was going over, the point piers was trying to make was "these guns were involved in crime so get rid of these guns"...

Alex jones went off in his usual ranting fashions and wasn't going to be bullied as many hosts attempt to do to people that oppose their views.

I did notice piers was not prepared to discuss the topic of ssri drugs (which is a small stretch to be called "suicide / murder pills", though those are among the side effects.).

Alex jones is "crazy", but his facts are more often than not accurate when you check them out.
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Of course, most reasonable people would understand why Piers was not prepared to discuss "SSRI" drugs, as that was not the topic. The fact that Jones could not stay on topic and intelligently debate the specific issue without running and hiding in an argumentative tangent is more noteworthy. If the subject is who will win the world series, one should not be expected to be prepared to intelligently follow into a sidebar discussion of what is a fair living wage amongst Caribbean factory workers (who stitch baseballs).... its an off topic sideshow.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Is Alex Jones "crazy"? I just watched this interview Alex Jones vs Piers Morgan on CNN (FULL ORIGINAL) No Commercial - YouTube with him apparently just yelling at Piers Morgan and all he did was just yell and say "your not gonna get the guns!", "all your gonna do is your factoid questions!", "i already went over the questions", "your a hatchet man for the NWO!". Alex Jones just plays the victim card the whole time and wont even answer a question. Is Alex Jones crazy?!
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I don't agree with many of his beliefs and causes and I don't listen to his show. But I think he recognizes he's in the position to gain the attention and support of many of the more mainstream populace who WANT someone to get angry and express to the Progressives exactly what they are in for if they keep pushing this matter.

He has my support on THIS issue.

He is expressing a righteous anger and his expression is just the thing that's needed now.

Better a little yelling and screaming to get the point across than saying nothing to this affront by the Progressives and later realizing we rose up in revolution without declaring the cause which would impel us to such a solution.




Progressives
 
marsden said:
I don't agree with many of his beliefs and causes and I don't listen to his show. But I think he recognizes he's in the position to gain the attention and support of many of the more mainstream populace who WANT someone to get angry and express to the Progressives exactly what they are in for if they keep pushing this matter.

He has my support on THIS issue.

He is expressing a righteous anger and his expression is just the thing that's needed now.

Better a little yelling and screaming to get the point across than saying nothing to this affront by the Progressives and later realizing we rose up in revolution without declaring the cause which would impel us to such a solution.




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Gun laws=banning guns which justifies a violent revolution?
 
Alex Jones is an asshole that makes his money off of feeding fear. Nothing more, nothing less.
 
JohnWOlin said:
Alex Jones is an asshole that makes his money off of feeding fear. Nothing more, nothing less.
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But this time he happens to be right.

Remember, Winston Churchill was held in disfavor by many Brits prior to the outbreak of WWII.

And after the war they voted him out of office.

But in the interim all he did was save their bloody Empire.

Alex Jones just might have met HIS defining moment with this whole gun control era we're in.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
What facts?
9/11 done by Bush?
British crimes rates spiked?
100's upon 100's of murders by guns in the UK?
Piers Morgan a tool of the NWO?

What other rantings did he go on during the video? I forgot there were so many. Most of his facts are half truths or entirely made up.
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In order...
FBI crime stat facts, us violent crime stats (piers Morgan doesn't seem to accept that death by stabbing is as tragic as death by guns), etc.

He did not say BUSH was the perpetrator, he said people within the military industrial complex... I'd elaborate further, but that's beyond the scope of the thread.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...rue-scale-of-violent-crime-rise-revealed.html
Was what he was referring.

For which he was corrected....

This one would take a whole thread, whether knowingly or not he is just a tool of CNN, that's a sufficient short answer.

Ssri drugs cause suicide and psychotic breaks... That is a fact.

Medias manipulation of people also is worthy of a university level course.
 
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BmanMcfly said:
In order...
FBI crime stat facts, us violent crime stats (piers Morgan doesn't seem to accept that death by stabbing is as tragic as death by guns), etc.

He did not say BUSH was the perpetrator, he said people within the military industrial complex... I'd elaborate further, but that's beyond the scope of the thread.

True scale of violent crime rise revealed - Telegraph
Was what he was referring.

For which he was corrected....

This one would take a whole thread, whether knowingly or not he is just a tool of CNN, that's a sufficient short answer.

Ssri drugs cause suicide and psychotic breaks... That is a fact.

Medias manipulation of people also is worthy of a university level course.
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I will respost something i have posted on another thread about "violence" and "gun violence" in the UK.

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Violetn crimes have not seen a "drastic change" like Alex kept on saying they have. Nothing has been "drastic" about the crime rate. If anything they have been going on an average trend of downwards.

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Crime also did not "skyrocket". That stat has always been held as the "holy grail" for "pro gun" people and crime actually has been going down and continues that way for the UK to this day.

Alex has yet again not been misinformed buy seems to be using out to dated stats. Typical...
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Gun laws=banning guns which justifies a violent revolution?
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What, besides your own personal concerns, would you stand up for? Fight for? Die for?

Are you willing to ignore the sacrifices of our forefathers to secure us the rights you seemingly take for granted?

Or do you not understand American history?

Some posters here would LOVE to see America in a revolution.

Some posters here, I believe, would do nothing while their rights were taken away by an oppressive government.

It's a good thing we aren't required to justify our citizenship with deeds which can be proven to help make this country stronger or else many of the posters here wouldn't be here much longer.

It burns me up that some of you not only aren't doing anything to show you've 'earned' your citizenship, but you carelessly, recklessly do things and espouse positions that are actively and aggressively counterproductive to having a strong, free and productive America.
 
marsden said:
What, besides your own personal concerns, would you stand up for? Fight for? Die for?
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What do you mean?
I am willing to stand up and die for many things. Such as an oppressive totalitarian government taking over the rights many have died for in the bill or rights. am also willing to die for my country if another such country invades and tries to overtake this country.

Are you willing to ignore the sacrifices of our forefathers to secure us the rights you seemingly take for granted?
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When i hear such statements of these i think people become to "nationalist" as i may call it. The "founding fathers" were not perfect. Many of them were slave owners, did not believe in women rights, and were elitist per say. Saying that times progress and history changes, saying that not everything they did was right, or saying everything they founded was right either.
But do i respect them? Yes.

Or do you not understand American history?
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Yes.



Some posters here would LOVE to see America in a revolution.
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Well there are many nuts on the internet.
IMO i wish everything to be settled in a peaceful means and i wish not go to another "revolution", i hope everyone's differences to be changes in peaceful means and i wish America to be changed in a more diplomatic way, creating more openness and more fairness to the "everyday man".

Some posters here, I believe, would do nothing while their rights were taken away by an oppressive government.
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What "oppression"?


It's a good thing we aren't required to justify our citizenship with deeds which can be proven to help make this country stronger or else many of the posters here wouldn't be here much longer.
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Is this a question?
What are you talking about?

It burns me up that some of you not only aren't doing anything to show you've 'earned' your citizenship, but you carelessly, recklessly do things and espouse positions that are actively and aggressively counterproductive to having a strong, free and productive America.
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What are you talking about?
Extreme nationalism?
Hang a Flag in the Window - YouTube
 
He is crazy and I don't take him seriously - but others do and that can't be completely ignored. He's part of the problem, not the solution.

marsden said:
I don't agree with many of his beliefs and causes and I don't listen to his show. But I think he recognizes he's in the position to gain the attention and support of many of the more mainstream populace who WANT someone to get angry and express to the Progressives exactly what they are in for if they keep pushing this matter.

He has my support on THIS issue.

He is expressing a righteous anger and his expression is just the thing that's needed now.

Better a little yelling and screaming to get the point across than saying nothing to this affront by the Progressives and later realizing we rose up in revolution without declaring the cause which would impel us to such a solution.
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That would be like scientists supporting UFO loons because they also believe in ET. But the fact is, the scientists generally avoid the UFO nuts because they discredit the science. In a like way conservatives should avoid psychos like this guy who discredit the valid arguments conservatives have. This guy is like the old Fire & Brimstone preachers, scare the masses with emotion so you can win them over. It's sad, really ...
 
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MoSurveyor said:
That would be like scientists supporting UFO loons because they also believe in ET. But the fact is, the scientists generally avoid the UFO nuts because they discredit the science. In a like way conservatives should avoid psychos like this guy who discredit the valid arguments conservatives have. This guy is like the old Fire & Brimstone preachers, scare the masses with emotion so you can win them over. It's sad, really ...
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We disagree on the level of urgency called for. Where the UFO researchers can afford to look askance at what you call a loon, we do not have the luxury of turning our noses up at, nor looking down our noses at someone who is willing to fight and die while leading us in opposing the foothold of tyranny in this, what is viewed around the world as the champion of liberty.

When you are in a foxhole and the bullets are flying, I'd imagine you don't care if the guy beside you is a loon as long as he's a good shot and willing to watch your six as you watch his.
 
He isn't completely crazy. He has correct principles in the view of the 2nd amendment and why he is there. It is just sad that he was invited and allowed to be a voice for the pro-gun right. This is a brilliant move from Piers Morgan to make himself look good and make the pro-gun people look like idiots. And he was successful in his attempt. If people have short memories, they will forget that Piers did the same thing that Alex Jones did to him, to that NRA spokesperson a few days ago on his program.
 
marsden said:
We disagree on the level of urgency called for. Where the UFO researchers can afford to look askance at what you call a loon, we do not have the luxury of turning our noses up at, nor looking down our noses at someone who is willing to fight and die while leading us in opposing the foothold of tyranny in this, what is viewed around the world as the champion of liberty.
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It has nothing to do with the level of urgency and everything to do with being believable. Loons are not an asset to any cause.

marsden said:
When you are in a foxhole and the bullets are flying, I'd imagine you don't care if the guy beside you is a loon as long as he's a good shot and willing to watch your six as you watch his.
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Well that's the trick, isn't it - the loon is just as likely to run off at random leaving your six open without you knowing it. That's MUCH more dangerous than being in the foxhole by yourself and knowing you have to watch your own back.
 
marsden said:
But this time he happens to be right.

Remember, Winston Churchill was held in disfavor by many Brits prior to the outbreak of WWII.

And after the war they voted him out of office.

But in the interim all he did was save their bloody Empire.

Alex Jones just might have met HIS defining moment with this whole gun control era we're in.
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He defines the gun movement as a bunch of spittle-flecked nut-jobs with anger issues. It's not a good look.
 
Risky Thicket said:
Alex has a habit of charging windmills, but I don't think he's crazy.
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You know, I really liked that description of him. I actually read a good part of Don Quixote de La Mancha, from which that reference comes from and found it to be really good. For anyone like me who does believe that many western powers are slowly tightening their grip of control on their populations, it can seem to be insane to go charging at the very people who are doing this. Ofcourse, the other way of looking at it is that if you believe that tyranny is approaching and you do nothing, then, as Benjamin Franklin once said, "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety"

The beauty of that line, in my view, is that we all determine what liberties are essential to us. For those who feel they still have enough, clearly they think that it's best to simply let things continue as they are.

Risky Thicket said:
I wouldn't put any money on any of his horses, however.
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I would, but not necessarily all of them. Anyway, I've opened up a thread over in the conspiracy forum here regarding Alex Jones and his web sites, as I imagine this subject holds more interest for them in general than it would for your average DB poster:
http://www.debatepolitics.com/conspiracy-theories/148274-alex-jones-and-his-web-sites.html
 
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I dont think hes crazy at all. I think hes trying to make a name for himself and make $ outta ridiculous CT theory crap. To him its all a gameshow, an attempt to grab his 15 mins of fame stretch it out as long as he can and rake in as much $ as he can.
The only ones I'd call crazy are those that think this guy is on the level, though I believe gullable would be a better word for it.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Is Alex Jones "crazy"? I just watched this interview Alex Jones vs Piers Morgan on CNN (FULL ORIGINAL) No Commercial - YouTube with him apparently just yelling at Piers Morgan and all he did was just yell and say "your not gonna get the guns!", "all your gonna do is your factoid questions!", "i already went over the questions", "your a hatchet man for the NWO!". Alex Jones just plays the victim card the whole time and wont even answer a question. Is Alex Jones crazy?!
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This is not the thing to do.......the man in the street playing psychiatrist....or even judging another based on so little.
Worse yet, I have no audio and U tube is generally of lousy quality..
If I knew the man directly and could spend some time with him......then a different story..
We, as a people are too quick to judge.
Thus - no vote.
 
I don't know, so I voted nope not crazy. I do not take him seriously.

He is an entertainer who feeds those who like CT stuff.
 
He has some signs of a manic disorder. Pressure of speech, flight of ideas, hyperactivity and delusions are all apparent in this interview.
 
Ben K. said:
He has some signs of a manic disorder. Pressure of speech, flight of ideas, hyperactivity and delusions are all apparent in this interview.
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And where did you get your degree allowing you to make that type of designation? Oh, you're not a psychologist? Didn't think so, and I'm not either, but I would recommend that you read a bit more of the schizophrenic label you are trying to apply,

That said, I would not argue if you simply said that he is some sort of functional "crazy", but I know a good number of people that are similarly quirky / crazy, but they are still good people at heart.
 
BmanMcfly said:
And where did you get your degree allowing you to make that type of designation? Oh, you're not a psychologist? Didn't think so, and I'm not either, but I would recommend that you read a bit more of the schizophrenic label you are trying to apply,

That said, I would not argue if you simply said that he is some sort of functional "crazy", but I know a good number of people that are similarly quirky / crazy, but they are still good people at heart.
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'Tis the internet, what good would stating my qualifications do?

Mania is not necessarily a component of schizophrenia, which I certainly don't think Mr. Jones has. People with manic disorders aren't necessarily bad people either. He does have the signs though.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
I will respost something i have posted on another thread about "violence" and "gun violence" in the UK.

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Violetn crimes have not seen a "drastic change" like Alex kept on saying they have. Nothing has been "drastic" about the crime rate. If anything they have been going on an average trend of downwards.

2utks2p.gif

Crime also did not "skyrocket". That stat has always been held as the "holy grail" for "pro gun" people and crime actually has been going down and continues that way for the UK to this day.

Alex has yet again not been misinformed buy seems to be using out to dated stats. Typical...
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Yes, and the article I posted explained how that data you put up as manipulated statistics that don't make an adequate comparison of pre and post 1998.
 
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