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    Is Alex Jones "Crazy"?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    I'm sure the IIHS and the NTSB would be happy to listen to any arguments you put forth to make our roads more safe.
    Ya, I'll tell them to ban any vehicle larger than a civic, they are too big and too scary and they move to fast so we must ban them all because im a scared child.

    Again, you're not speaking in the language of the opposition. Most of them don't know about guns and don't want to know about guns. All they know is that guns are lethal weapons, which (to them) makes them dangerous.
    Where do most people get their news?? Well, only about half of people pay attention to ANY news.

    So, they hear about these tragedies, and don't have really any political thought at all, so quickly buy into the dangers of guns.

    Those people aren't going to count in the grand scheme... Im sorry to say, but around half of people just flow through life regardless of their situation. Not saying that as a bad thing, just a truth.

    I don't believe that would ever happen. There are too many hunters in America - and too many people that know hunters - for hunting rifles and shotguns to ever be outlawed.
    It can happen, it is happening, through an incremental approach... It would be nearly impossible to clear out all guns, and it would likely create a bloodbath to attempt it...

    Or, it could be like Australia where people gave up most of them, and then the rest was tracking down (and often killing) gun owners they encountered, that's how the "real" crocodile Dundee was killed.

    Are you willing to let the (non-convicted) drug lord own a tank? If not then as far as I'm concerned you agree with gun control.
    I'm also willing to say that a tank would be prohibitively expensive to drive around, and that the person would be responsible for all damages caused by the tank... And if it was fired would have to prove self-defense. Tanks aren't exactly fuel efficient either...

    But, if this person felt like an invasion was in the cards and wanted to protect his lands, well, so long as that is all understood, you would find that even given the option very few would ever even buy a tank. The only self defense a tank offers is that you are in a tank so noone can get to you.

    So now the USA is Nazi Germany??? That's comment gets 3/3 ...
    That was not the question,.. The question was whether that happened in democratic republics before... I'm pretty sure the roman empire was also a democratic republic that collapsed due to corruption after turning into a dictatorship.

    If the us is anything related to nazi Germany, it would be as a student of.... However, Americans are (or at least have been) fiercely independent and would not put up with any loss of rights.


    It's rhetoric like this that sets the cause back. No one believes such wild crap except those already committed to gun freedom.
    What cause are you talking about? What do you know about causes and what helps or hurts one?
    The truth, hard cold ugly truth, is the only thing that can save a country that has become the world capitol of lies.

    That's why Alex jones screaming truths at piers Morgan became such a huge thing, it shook people out of their trance. There's a reason why he got cut off after 2 segments, rather than the scheduled 3 segments.

    That information is already available for the USA. What country do you live in?

    Liberals do exactly that - they regularly want to increase policing activities including curbing gang violence and try to decrease poverty. Who stops those things from becoming policy?
    Ya, because of HOW government "helps"... Already the US is the country with the most people incarcerated and it's had little impact on overall crime rates.

    Most of the time the solutions offered are worse than the problems they are intending to fix.

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    Re: Is Alex Jones "Crazy"?

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Ya, I'll tell them to ban any vehicle larger than a civic, they are too big and too scary and they move to fast so we must ban them all because im a scared child.

    Where do most people get their news?? Well, only about half of people pay attention to ANY news.

    So, they hear about these tragedies, and don't have really any political thought at all, so quickly buy into the dangers of guns.

    Those people aren't going to count in the grand scheme... Im sorry to say, but around half of people just flow through life regardless of their situation. Not saying that as a bad thing, just a truth.

    It can happen, it is happening, through an incremental approach... It would be nearly impossible to clear out all guns, and it would likely create a bloodbath to attempt it...

    Or, it could be like Australia where people gave up most of them, and then the rest was tracking down (and often killing) gun owners they encountered, that's how the "real" crocodile Dundee was killed.

    That was not the question,.. The question was whether that happened in democratic republics before... I'm pretty sure the roman empire was also a democratic republic that collapsed due to corruption after turning into a dictatorship.

    If the us is anything related to nazi Germany, it would be as a student of.... However, Americans are (or at least have been) fiercely independent and would not put up with any loss of rights.

    That's why Alex jones screaming truths at piers Morgan became such a huge thing, it shook people out of their trance. There's a reason why he got cut off after 2 segments, rather than the scheduled 3 segments.

    Ya, because of HOW government "helps"... Already the US is the country with the most people incarcerated and it's had little impact on overall crime rates.

    Most of the time the solutions offered are worse than the problems they are intending to fix.

    The truth, hard cold ugly truth, is the only thing that can save a country that has become the world capitol of lies.
    Carry on in ignorance, then --- you'll win few people over to your side this way.


    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    What cause are you talking about? What do you know about causes and what helps or hurts one?
    A lifetime of living during which many groups have fought the government and defended their rights from others as well, like business owners who thought they could discriminate on the basis of race or sex. Ranting, raving, and signs of paranoia will not help any cause. All you're doing with that approach is alienating others who might otherwise side with you.


    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    I'm also willing to say that a tank would be prohibitively expensive to drive around, and that the person would be responsible for all damages caused by the tank... And if it was fired would have to prove self-defense. Tanks aren't exactly fuel efficient either...

    But, if this person felt like an invasion was in the cards and wanted to protect his lands, well, so long as that is all understood, you would find that even given the option very few would ever even buy a tank. The only self defense a tank offers is that you are in a tank so noone can get to you.
    Why should we care how much it costs buy, or costs to run, or anything else about it's expense? Not my - or your - concern. And of course they'd be responsible for any damage - aren't you responsible for damage from your guns? BTW - tanks, just like Cats, do have rubber treads that can be installed between the cleats.

    Who cares why he bought it? Not my business. You can claim some fear as your reason to buy guns but it could be a lie - I have no way of knowing - and honestly I don't care why you bought your guns, it's none of my business. You don't have to justify your purchases of anything to me or anyone else - except your significant other if you have one.


    Are you required to prove self-defense when you fire YOUR guns??? Why is the tank owner different - you damn Commie! LOL!
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    Is Alex Jones "Crazy"?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Carry on in ignorance, then --- you'll win few people over to your side this way.
    I'd say that, on the whole, Alex jones steamrolled over piers, like piers attempts to do with most guests he disagrees with.

    A lifetime of living during which many groups have fought the government and defended their rights from others as well, like business owners who thought they could discriminate on the basis of race or sex. Ranting, raving, and signs of paranoia will not help any cause. All you're doing with that approach is alienating others who might otherwise side with you.
    Perhaps, appeasement and political correctness, and most of all complacency have allowed the situation to devolve to the extent that it has.... What America needs more than additional coddling is a serious wake up call... And Alex did deliver that.

    Yes, there's a good portion of people that think he's crazy, and I agree, he probly is a little crazy, but he is passionate. The key is not to try and convert everyone anyway, but rather to shake the most amount of people who will look up what was brought up...



    Why should we care how much it costs buy, or costs to run, or anything else about it's expense? Not my - or your - concern. And of course they'd be responsible for any damage - aren't you responsible for damage from your guns? BTW - tanks, just like Cats, do have rubber treads that can be installed between the cleats.

    Who cares why he bought it? Not my business. You can claim some fear as your reason to buy guns but it could be a lie - I have no way of knowing - and honestly I don't care why you bought your guns, it's none of my business. You don't have to justify your purchases of anything to me or anyone else - except your significant other if you have one.
    Well, if I just say, "yes, people should be able to have tanks", then it comes off as crazy... The key part was that yes, I think a person should be able to buy a tank, but, using the tank would be nearly impossible...

    Are you required to prove self-defense when you fire YOUR guns??? Why is the tank owner different - you damn Commie! LOL!
    Lol, and yes, you typically do have to give a report detailing the circumstance leading up to pulling on someone, especially of its fatal, or I would at least expect that to be the case.

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    Re: Is Alex Jones "Crazy"?

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Perhaps, appeasement and political correctness, and most of all complacency have allowed the situation to devolve to the extent that it has.... What America needs more than additional coddling is a serious wake up call... And Alex did deliver that.

    Yes, there's a good portion of people that think he's crazy, and I agree, he probly is a little crazy, but he is passionate. The key is not to try and convert everyone anyway, but rather to shake the most amount of people who will look up what was brought up...
    Then he's just preaching to the choir and if that's all you want you got it.


    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Lol, and yes, you typically do have to give a report detailing the circumstance leading up to pulling on someone, especially of its fatal, or I would at least expect that to be the case.
    So every time you go out to the farm and target practice you have to file a document? I bet not. I doubt if you even have to do it at the gun range, though, honestly, I wouldn't know. Too many farms around here to bother with a range.


    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Well, if I just say, "yes, people should be able to have tanks", then it comes off as crazy... The key part was that yes, I think a person should be able to buy a tank, but, using the tank would be nearly impossible...
    Many people think I am a little crazy, which is why I seldom bring it up - even around here. I say it once and those who have seen my posts in the past know what I mean when I say "All gun control is stupid". It's not my problem if some don't take that at face value ...
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    Is Alex Jones "Crazy"?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Then he's just preaching to the choir and if that's all you want you got it.
    CNN viewers are most definitely not his "choir"... And that's not what I said Either way.

    What I was saying was more that it was aimed at those who have never been exposed to the real issues Of the debate. If you watch again, it's clear what piers approach was, frame the problem as one of how a particular weapon was involved in some heinous crimes, and so we should ban those (eventually all) guns.

    Alex was dropping huge facts, especially the ssri connection that actually created a look of panic in piers Morgan.

    The impact was clear because he was initially scheduled for a third segment, but was cut off at two.

    What's most is that, since CNN ratings got a nice surge in the wake, he's become a discussion piece for days after, if for every 10 people that hear about it then one new person looks for themselves at the facts themselves or whatever, they will eventually see that the facts and history supports maintaining the constitution no matter that it creates some problems, especially for those in control.

    The unfortunate fact that there is a new strong push to limit/ end the second amendment as we know it, goes to show just how Late inthe game we are now.


    So every time you go out to the farm and target practice you have to file a document? I bet not. I doubt if you even have to do it at the gun range, though, honestly, I wouldn't know. Too many farms around here to bother with a range.
    I meant if you shoot someone and cops are involved, you'll probly wind up filing some sort of report.

    Many people think I am a little crazy, which is why I seldom bring it up - even around here. I say it once and those who have seen my posts in the past know what I mean when I say "All gun control is stupid". It's not my problem if some don't take that at face value ...
    Gun control is stupid, it's not so much about the Guns as it is about the control.

    It's like I pointed out, if anyone could buy a tank, the free market would make it prohibitively expensive to maintain and would be highly unlikely to ever be in a situation where you could justify its use, that or everyone would drive around in a tank like a status symbol.

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    Re: Is Alex Jones "Crazy"?

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    I meant if you shoot someone and cops are involved, you'll probly wind up filing some sort of report.
    You said the tank owner would have to file a report or something when he fired it, not when he killed or injured someone.


    Gun control is stupid, it's not so much about the Guns as it is about the control.

    It's like I pointed out, if anyone could buy a tank, the free market would make it prohibitively expensive to maintain and would be highly unlikely to ever be in a situation where you could justify its use, that or everyone would drive around in a tank like a status symbol.
    It's easy to justify the use of a tank: "I like them! And it's a real hoot firing one off!" - and the implications for armed resistance against an oppressive government is obvious. Any "justification" you have for owning a semi-automatic rifle with a 30-round clip applies just as well to a tank. That's exactly the reason I say all gun control is stupid. You either accept the rights/justifications to own guns (excluding hunting weapons) or you don't. Stopping at some invisible line in the sand is illogical.


    People do drive around in "tanks" as a status symbol, they're called "SUV's".
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    There are private citizens who own and collect tanks, So why is this even being discussed?
    The History channel even has a show about peopel restoring tanks called tank Overhaul, interesting show BTW.
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    Re: Is Alex Jones "Crazy"?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Is Alex Jones "crazy"? I just watched this interview Alex Jones vs Piers Morgan on CNN (FULL ORIGINAL) No Commercial - YouTube with him apparently just yelling at Piers Morgan and all he did was just yell and say "your not gonna get the guns!", "all your gonna do is your factoid questions!", "i already went over the questions", "your a hatchet man for the NWO!". Alex Jones just plays the victim card the whole time and wont even answer a question. Is Alex Jones crazy?!
    Yes, he is passionate. Yes, his views are certainly out there. But I don't think Alex Jones is crazy in any literal sense of the word. I've listened to his show and he has his moments of brilliance. But then he goes off about black helicopters and 9/11 inside job...
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    Re: Is Alex Jones "Crazy"?

    I've had my eye on this bad boy for a while now...



    It's only $85,000.00 and available for delivery.

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    Re: Is Alex Jones "Crazy"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    There are private citizens who own and collect tanks, So why is this even being discussed?
    The History channel even has a show about peopel restoring tanks called tank Overhaul, interesting show BTW.
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    I've had my eye on this bad boy for a while now...



    It's only $85,000.00 and available for delivery.

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    Who doesn't know it's legal to own tanks and cannon?
    I didn't realize the guns were fully functional. The scout cars and one APC I've seen around here have machine guns on them but they're disabled - and I didn't figure they'd let a 120mm loose on the streets.


    A T-55, nice!
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