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Thread: Technology and education

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    Re: Technology and education

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Not yet.
    Not ever. Recorded lecture is fine and dandy, but it cannot replace lab work, nor does it grant access to necessary tools and resources often found on college campuses, it also restricts severely contact times with professors and department tutors.
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    Re: Technology and education

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Recorded lecture is fine and dandy,
    Watching a recorded lecture is equivalent to sitting in the lecture hall and taking notes. It's "fine and dandy" in exactly the same sense that attending your class is "fine and dandy."

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    but it cannot replace lab work,
    Agree, with the caveat that computer simulations are getting better by the day. I'm sure a lot more labwork could be completed online than you'd like to admit.

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    nor does it grant access to necessary tools and resources often found on college campuses,
    Many of which are being scanned electronically and will soon be accessible online.

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    it also restricts severely contact times with professors and department tutors.
    Email, skype, telephone, and internet forums are great ways to ask questions.

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    Re: Technology and education

    I think it is funny that people believe apparently that most folks go to college just to learn. Kind of hard to score with a drunk co-ed through online lectures.

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    Re: Technology and education

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    I think it is funny that people believe apparently that most folks go to college just to learn. Kind of hard to score with a drunk co-ed through online lectures.
    Too many people go to school on their parent's dime, or on the taxpayer's dime, only to party it up. I had to give you a "like," though, because you speak the truth and it made me laugh.

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    Re: Technology and education

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Watching a recorded lecture is equivalent to sitting in the lecture hall and taking notes. It's "fine and dandy" in exactly the same sense that attending your class is "fine and dandy."
    With just a recording there is no immediate feedback, no way to ask questions. If there's a way to communicate and interact, then it's just like you are in lecture and in which case class size would again need to be limited such that so many questions do not get asked that it affects the lecture.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Agree, with the caveat that computer simulations are getting better by the day. I'm sure a lot more labwork could be completed online than you'd like to admit.
    Computer simulations are not substitute to hand on device. Not everyone is getting a degree in theory.

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    Many of which are being scanned electronically and will soon be accessible online.
    Some of which may.

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    Email, skype, telephone, and internet forums are great ways to ask questions.
    Great way to ask questions, not a great way to get answers.
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    Re: Technology and education

    My answer would be partly. For lecture style classes, absolutely. Several of my master's classes were offered both in person and online. You'd watch a live stream of the teacher in the lecture hall and could web chat questions to her. You could also view the recording of it later. It was great. I could break down 3 hour lectures into smaller chunks so I could pay better attention to everything. For classes that require a laboratory component, this won't be possible. There's no way you can dissect an animal, perform chemical reactions at home without a teacher right there, or in the case of my nursing school: examine another person and have your assessment verified.

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    Re: Technology and education

    Quote Originally Posted by kerussll View Post
    My answer would be partly. For lecture style classes, absolutely. Several of my master's classes were offered both in person and online. You'd watch a live stream of the teacher in the lecture hall and could web chat questions to her. You could also view the recording of it later. It was great. I could break down 3 hour lectures into smaller chunks so I could pay better attention to everything. For classes that require a laboratory component, this won't be possible. There's no way you can dissect an animal, perform chemical reactions at home without a teacher right there, or in the case of my nursing school: examine another person and have your assessment verified.
    Yeah, I think there are plenty of opportunities to implement this into a classroom. But to believe that it would take over the whole of the academic discourse I think is perhaps a flight of fancy and perhaps harbored more by the anti-academic.
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    Re: Technology and education

    I don't think they will ever completely replace classrooms mainly do the need for human interaction.

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    Re: Technology and education

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Not yet.
    Not ever. Physics and engineering are extremely hands on, and can not be replaced by internet coursework.

    For electrical engineering I would put the value of theory at about 30-40%, with hands on at about 60-70%. You simply can't learn to be an effective engineer through the internet unless you're a savant.
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    Re: Technology and education

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Not ever. Physics and engineering are extremely hands on, and can not be replaced by internet coursework.

    For electrical engineering I would put the value of theory at about 30-40%, with hands on at about 60-70%. You simply can't learn to be an effective engineer through the internet unless you're a savant.

    I have a degree in Civil Engineering, and I think it could be done online. Everything is done on a computer these days anyway.

    It's not like back when my dad graduated, when they drafted everything by hand and used abacuses instead of calculators.

    What are you gonna miss out on, building mousetrap cars?

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