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    Re: Technology and education

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Simple Answer: Yes. Everything we can do in a traditional classroom we are increasingly able to do online.
    Not as effectively. I was remained by students results this past semester how important the human element in education is. Many, many students simply do not do well with online courses.

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    Re: Technology and education

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Well it's reality. You want to demand that something which isn't a business should run on free market business principles, we don't even have businesses which do so.

    All I can really see is that you have some personal axe against academia and University for some reason, you belittle the people who go through it, try to make it into something its not, all so you can herald its fall; that's it. Create cogs and nothing more; you'd make a great Cyberman.
    I never "demanded" anything. I don't know whether you create straw men on purpose, or you just have trouble with reading comprehension. Either way, I shouldn't have to keep backtracking to repeat what I actually said, as opposed to what you want to think I said.

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    Re: Technology and education

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I never "demanded" anything. I don't know whether you create straw men on purpose, or you just have trouble with reading comprehension. Either way, I shouldn't have to keep backtracking to repeat what I actually said, as opposed to what you want to think I said.
    Backtracking is all you can do. You've said what you've said and it's been picked up by others. Your aggression against academia is well documented.
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    Re: Technology and education

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Some of the smartest people I've ever met didn't have much formal education either, but that's not really the point here.

    You seem to be coming from a defensive and bitter place, and for that I'm sorry. If you think that a degree's purpose is to segregate, you are mistaken. Your take on academia is one of an outsider with only partial understanding. You asked whether I understand the role of universities in society, and the answer is yes, I do.
    How is it off point to mention that some of the smartest people I know don't have degrees? Degrees come with benefits. The world is full of capable, deserving people who won't ever see those benefits. The process of getting a degree also increases knowledge. The world will never see the benefit of some of its most capable people being in possession of that knowledge.

    Given that the topic of this thread is the role technology can play to bring access to education to a greater pool of people, I think pointing out that many of the world's brightest don't currently have a degree is very much on point.

    Second, both you and Ikari seem to want to take this from being a debate on the issues to being a personal evaluation of my motives and feelings. It's disappointing, because two supposedly well-educated people shouldn't be lacking in logical debate skills to where they would resort to such simple-mindedness.

    Since you brought it up, though, I certainly have no love for academe. It's a shady world of self-aggrandizement and resting entirely on one's laurels rather than on one's accomplishments, and it exerts entirely too much influence on the rest of society based on nothing more than smoke-and-mirrors. Academe is the Wizard of Oz behind the curtain - seemingly great and powerful, but the actual people running it are feeble and ordinary. The biggest problem I have with academe is that it is exclusive, rather than inclusive. It's an old boy's club in the worst way.

    Like it or not, though, the internet will end that.
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    Re: Technology and education

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Backtracking is all you can do. You've said what you've said and it's been picked up by others. Your aggression against academia is well documented.
    You're just not very good with words, Ikari. I never "demanded" anything. I don't, however, have any love for academe. I don't deny that - academe is a cancer on society in its current form. See my answer above to nota bene.

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    Re: Technology and education

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    How is it off point to mention that some of the smartest people I know don't have degrees? Degrees come with benefits. The world is full of capable, deserving people who won't ever see those benefits. The process of getting a degree also increases knowledge. The world will never see the benefit of some of its most capable people being in possession of that knowledge.

    Given that the topic of this thread is the role in which technology can play to bring access to education to a greater pool of people, I think pointing out that many of the world's brightest don't currently have a degree is very much on point.

    Second, both you and Ikari seem to want to take this from being a debate on the issues to being a personal evaluation of my motives and feelings. It's disappointing, because two supposedly well-educated people shouldn't be lacking in logical debate skills to where they would resort to such mindlessness.

    Since you brought it up, though, I certainly have no love for academe. It's a shady world of self-aggrandizement and resting entirely on one's laurels rather than on one's accomplishments, and it exerts entirely too much influence on the rest of society based on nothing more than smoke-and-mirrors. Academe is the Wizard of Oz behind the curtain - seemingly great and powerful, but the actual people running it are feeble and ordinary. The biggest problem I have with academe is that it is exclusive, rather than inclusive. It's an old boy's club in the worst way.

    Like it or not, though, the internet will end that.
    You don't see a problem relying on a mechanism constructed by the elite? That's the internet, however democratized it has become.
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    Re: Technology and education

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    You don't see a problem relying on a mechanism constructed by the elite? That's the internet, however democratized it has become.
    That's incidental.

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    Re: Technology and education

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    That's incidental.
    Hardly so. It demonstrates whatever point Ikari and I pointed out or has pointed out numerous times in similar threads. Your progress, your ideas, your view of the world is built upon the efforts and works of the elite. Everything from your political ideology, your philosophy, your vehicles, and your computer screen. It's all been devised by those you don't care for.
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    Re: Technology and education

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Hardly so. It demonstrates whatever point Ikari pointed out or has pointed out numerous times in similar threads. Your progress, your ideas, your view of the world is built upon the efforts and works of the elite.
    Actually, most inventions come from small businesses.

    And the internet? You can thank the US military for that, not academe.

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    Re: Technology and education

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Actually, most inventions come from small businesses.

    And the internet? You can thank the US military for that, not academe.
    And you think the academy was no large part of that development? How ignorant and naive.
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