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    Re: Technology and education

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Pussies and communists! When I was in grad school, and undergraduate killed himself in the labs. Literally (though not intentionally). Shorted 3-Phase across his chest. They revived his ass, he's no worse for the wear and hell, now he's immune to electricity.
    HS science classes are now, all theory no practice.
    Makes science boring as ****.
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    Re: Technology and education

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    HS science classes are now, all theory no practice.
    Makes science boring as ****.
    We made rockets in our class that was fun and interesting.

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    Re: Technology and education

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    HS science classes are now, all theory no practice.
    Makes science boring as ****.
    I have heard but, not from an independent authoritative source so grains of salt, that there is a huge generational divide in science teachers meaning there are tons of old ones and not so many young ones so there will be a huge void in that field in a decade or so.

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    Re: Technology and education

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    There are certain areas of study that will always require a classroom, the internet won't replace these.
    Okay, but how do you define "classroom"? Say you're the prof while I'm the student. You're in a university classroom--boards, tables or desks, whatever. And so am I, just not the same room.

    I'm looking at you at the front of the room or as you move about (special mats, and this is just like the "blocking" of tv/film/stage). You're writing notes on the white board (special boards/special markers), and I am writing them down and/or seeing them and having them stored on my laptop or IPad or whatever.

    You're looking at me; I'm looking at you. You can see everything I'm doing and vice-versa. Unless the classroom you're talking about requires the smell of my perfume (Estee Lauder, LOL) or other students' aftershave or to physically touch me, what's the difference?

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    Re: Technology and education

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    We made rockets in our class that was fun and interesting.
    I did that was I was 10 or 11, at my house.
    Building model rockets is very basic stuff, they were doing in the 60's for little kids.
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    Re: Technology and education

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Okay, but how do you define "classroom"? Say you're the prof while I'm the student. You're in a university classroom--boards, tables or desks, whatever. And so am I, just not the same room.

    I'm looking at you at the front of the room or as you move about (special mats, and this is just like the "blocking" of tv/film/stage). You're writing notes on the white board (special boards/special markers), and I am writing them down and/or seeing them and having them stored on my laptop or IPad or whatever.

    You're looking at me; I'm looking at you. You can see everything I'm doing and vice-versa. Unless the classroom you're talking about requires the smell of my perfume (Estee Lauder, LOL) or other students' aftershave or to physically touch me, what's the difference?
    I'm mainly talking mainly about science labs and courses that require students to learn hands on skills. That's why I preface things with "certain areas of study."
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    Re: Technology and education

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Online classrooms bro.
    Already been invented.

    Social interaction is fine, but from what I remember from school, we didn't do a whole lot of group activities, it was mostly individual.
    That might work for soft skills like philosophy or basket weaving. But for the hard degrees like engineering, physics and chemistry, working together in person is positively required. Hands on is a huge part in engineering, and when you get to your job, you need to be able to work in an engineering team, in person, and be at least half competent. You can't do that from reading about electronics on the internet, you have to do.
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    Re: Technology and education

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    That might work for soft skills like philosophy or basket weaving. But for the hard degrees like engineering, physics and chemistry, working together in person is positively required. Hands on is a huge part in engineering, and when you get to your job, you need to be able to work in an engineering team, in person, and be at least half competent. You can't do that from reading about electronics on the internet, you have to do.
    I dunno, a lot of people have taught themselves how to do all that stuff.
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    Re: Technology and education

    I have read through all the tread.
    I ran the Science and Engineering labs at a University for over a decade.
    There is a lot of infrastructure that most do not see.
    It costs a lot more than the lab fees to put together a functioning lab.
    It doesn't matter if it's Digital Circuits, or Inorganic Chemistry.
    A lot of private research is conducted at Universities, because they have the
    infrastructure, and researchers in place.
    The company paying for the grant get the work done,
    he Professor and grad students get to work on real world solutions.
    It is a win - win scenario.

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    Re: Technology and education

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    I have read through all the tread.
    I ran the Science and Engineering labs at a University for over a decade.
    There is a lot of infrastructure that most do not see.
    It costs a lot more than the lab fees to put together a functioning lab.
    It doesn't matter if it's Digital Circuits, or Inorganic Chemistry.
    A lot of private research is conducted at Universities, because they have the
    infrastructure, and researchers in place.
    The company paying for the grant get the work done,
    he Professor and grad students get to work on real world solutions.
    It is a win - win scenario.
    Yup. The people jumping up and down for joy thinking this could be the end of academia are just fooling themselves. Lecture will not go away, the University will not go away, it will not turn into an internet only institution. There are some fields that you may be able to do entirely online, but many more cannot be. It's great that someone can sit in their chair at home and get an MBA, but something like that is not compatible with all subjects.
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