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    Re: Technology and education

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Indeed, and it should be encouraged. We need engineers and scientists, without a doubt; this is how humanity progresses. I'd change K-12 into a trimester system (no summer break for months), I'd install the proper levels to higher education Trade/Tech School, Community College, College, and University. Those are all different things (we use College and University rather interchangeably these days), and I would fund the bejesus out of them...essentially make it public utility if one could.
    If you had a real job in the private sector, you know, one in which you earn your own living instead of living off the taxpayer, you wouldn't entertain such delusions.

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    Re: Technology and education

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Won't happen, engineering programs are a safety hazard to teenagers.
    Or so says the helicopter moms and safety nazi's.
    You know where most innovation comes from? Small business. Not from government research, but from small mom-and-pop businesses who aren't afraid to tinker and try new things out.

    People like you, building bombs in your basement.

    That needs to be encouraged, and free markets are the way to do it.

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    Re: Technology and education

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    You know where most innovation comes from? Small business. Not from government research, but from small mom-and-pop businesses who aren't afraid to tinker and try new things out.

    People like you, building bombs in your basement.

    That needs to be encouraged, and free markets are the way to do it.
    Just for clarity, the last attempt I made to build bombs, was when I was a teenager.
    As an adult, I haven't done jack, just exploring my options.

    Chemical synthesis is just fun.

    A cool book about it.

    Amazon.com: Illustrated Guide to Home Chemistry Experiments: All Lab, No Lecture (DIY Science) (9780596514921): Robert Bruce Thompson: Books
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    Re: Technology and education

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    For being an educated man, you are having a hard time following a pretty simple line of logic.

    A. The free market prizes engineers, or future engineers.

    B. Engineers must have degrees.

    That's it. It's so simple, a cave man could do it.

    Now, say we instituted my plan, and engineering students had more internships and worked fewer hours in your nonsense academic sweatshop for bogus research. Companies would still prize them because they would meet requirement "A."

    However, in addition, they would gain real world experience which is invaluable. They could better figure out which company they want to go to work for in the future, and what they want to do. They could advance faster, having already got one foot in the door, so to speak. They could earn money while attending school, so they wouldn't be forced in to debt.

    But you're not interested in any of this. You're only interested in free labor for your government subsidized research.
    A) That research has to happen otherwise engineering will come screeching to a halt when base engineering research hasn't been performed to advance various technology
    B) Experience in the lab is experience

    I'm interested in propelling the Republic forward and maintaining America as the leader in innovation and technology.
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    Re: Technology and education

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    If you had a real job in the private sector, you know, one in which you earn your own living instead of living off the taxpayer, you wouldn't entertain such delusions.
    I do have a job in the private sector. I'm not in academia anymore, though I miss it. It was a lot of fun and you had way more freedom and could do much more interesting research than in industry; but the hours sucked!
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    Re: Technology and education

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Won't happen, engineering programs are a safety hazard to teenagers.
    Or so says the helicopter moms and safety nazi's.
    Pussies and communists! When I was in grad school, and undergraduate killed himself in the labs. Literally (though not intentionally). Shorted 3-Phase across his chest. They revived his ass, he's no worse for the wear and hell, now he's immune to electricity.
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    Re: Technology and education

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Just for clarity, the last attempt I made to build bombs, was when I was a teenager.
    As an adult, I haven't done jack, just exploring my options.

    Chemical synthesis is just fun.

    A cool book about it.

    Amazon.com: Illustrated Guide to Home Chemistry Experiments: All Lab, No Lecture (DIY Science) (9780596514921): Robert Bruce Thompson: Books

    I know, I was just messing with you.

    You reminded me of one time in high school, my friends and I made a "bomb" out of styrofoam, gasoline, and a metal can. We lit it off in a field, under a bridge. Bad idea.... there was a giant plume of smoke over there forever.

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    Re: Technology and education

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I know, I was just messing with you.

    You reminded me of one time in high school, my friends and I made a "bomb" out of styrofoam, gasoline, and a metal can. We lit it off in a field, under a bridge. Bad idea.... there was a giant plume of smoke over there forever.
    I used model rocket engines, also the gas/styrofoam stuff, something else I can't remember.
    I'm surprised I didn't ignite the model rocket engines and burn my hand off, to be honest.
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    Re: Technology and education

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I know, I was just messing with you.

    You reminded me of one time in high school, my friends and I made a "bomb" out of styrofoam, gasoline, and a metal can. We lit it off in a field, under a bridge. Bad idea.... there was a giant plume of smoke over there forever.
    They called that "napalm" but it wasn't close. I made that. It wasn't too much fun.

    Drain-O and Al foil was fun

    We did make a fire ball launcher out of PVC pipe, gasoline, and tennis balls that worked really well until the entirety of the contraption caught on fire

    One of the best pranks I ever pulled was in High School when we put exploding tennis balls into the tennis teams basket. Hilarious!
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Technology and education

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    One of the best pranks I ever pulled was in High School when we put exploding tennis balls into the tennis teams basket. Hilarious!
    Where is youtube when you need it? That sounds like it would have been hilarious.

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