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  • I'm an American and I consider NASA a priority

    38 63.33%
  • I'm an American and I don't consider space programs a priority

    12 20.00%
  • I'm an American and I want more international coop (NASA + ESA + other)

    20 33.33%
  • I'm an European and I consider ESA a priority

    2 3.33%
  • I'm an European and I want more international coop

    2 3.33%
  • I'm an European and I don't care about space programs

    0 0%
  • I'm Russian and I want more for Roscosmos

    1 1.67%
  • I'm Russian and I want more cooperation

    1 1.67%
  • I'm Russian and I don't care about space programs

    0 0%
  • I'm (other) and herp derp, I leave comment

    4 6.67%
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Thread: Space programs and their support among the population [W:91]

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    Space programs and their support among the population [W:91]

    Hello.

    I am a pretty big supporter of space exploration myself.

    When I was young, my grandfather told me that during the 1960's, the mayor of town he lived in was the only one who had a television that could get foreign programs somehow. This was during the communist era see. Anyway, when the Apollo space mission flew, a lot of people from the town gathered in the room to watch the broadcast on the TV. He said that there were like 60 people crammed in the living room and the hall, all standing close to one another, in immense heat because of all the people and it was summertime, and about 100 more outside the house, listening through the window. Everybody was quiet, listening and following it all carefully.

    And the best part was that after the broadcast, when he went home, he felt like he was himself on the Moon. Going sooo slow and with big steps with a lot of distance between them, like he couldn't walk right.

    Now, you imagine that I can't relay the whole thing to you with the same amount of excitement for obvious reasons but I'm quite certain that if you're old enough or if you're younger, and talk to older folks who have been there as it were, you might hear the same excitement from them on this topic. Or you might not, I dunno.

    Anyway. I want that. Not the whole 60 people in a room thing, but I want that feeling of thrill and excitement, that something monumental is about to happen. I mean, nobody really cares that much about unmanned space missions. There is no thrill there. There is ofc, the scientific aspect and engagement of it, but that's for specialists mostly. To get other people involved with this and supportive of this on a massive scale, you need to have men up there, on the surface of a planet. To put a footprint, not a tire track, on the surface of something else. Somewhere where most of us will never set foot on during our lifetime. Something that will make the rest of us buy fancy space outfists and I don't know, read more SF and want to have spacesuit costume parties and whatever. I don't know. But I want that.

    But enough about me and this.

    This poll is made to assess, at least in this microcosm of DP, what is the general support for space programs.

    There are 4 big space agencies in the world atm.

    NASA - everybody heard of it.
    ESA - European space agency. If you're an European, you know of it.
    Rocosmos - Russian space agency
    And the chinese one.

    Now sadly, there are just 10 poll spaces... so take yer pick.

    Also, for those who are confused. ESA is not an EU project. There are countries outside of the EU (switzerland and Norway) who are part of the space program for quite some time now and contribute to the budget. But it is true that the EU also provides now, the largest share of the budget to ESA, but it has no authority over it. And hopefully, never will. And European here means that you are part of an European country, regardless of whether it is in the EU or not, or whether it is a part of ESA or not.

    If you vote for I'm X and I consider Y a priority, it means you would like to see more funding put in place for it by the authorities and also, get more out of it. But you don't automatically want more cooperation, but rather, see it as a stand-alone enterprise.

    If you vote for coop, it just means that, you are happy with how things are now for the space agencies but would like to see more cooperation between them. Pool resources as it were and share the results.

    If you don't care then you have no soul.
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    re: Space programs and their support among the population [W:91]

    I consider ESA a priority. I would like to see more funding put in place and I would like to see more cooperation, especially between ESA, NASA and Rocosmos. There is already a historic, longstanding support and cooperation between ESA and NASA, but I would like to see it expanded even further. Besides, I would also like to see more funding put in place for NASA... whose budget has shrinked over the years, especially since 2009. i just didn't tick the #1 option because I'm not an american.

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    I would consider it a priority, but a priority behind domestic energy innovation and sustainable health care. I have often wondered how nasa would do if we tossed them the energy problem.

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    re: Space programs and their support among the population [W:91]

    I am supporter of NASA as Well.....both NASA and the Air Force should be taking the Lead. Gingrich wasn't so out of pocket when he was talking about colonizing the moon. We need to be outfront and building some sort of outpost there. We know there is water on the moon. We should be the first to build and get people there. Whether that involves putting structures on the Surface or even going under the surface.

    I don't like just leaving private industry doing whatever they want up there. Now only on the eventuality of building on a another planet. But we should build a couple more Space Stations and labs out there. Personally I think we should have had four for each direction there is. North South East and West.....around the Planet.

    Already one is putting a Motel in Orbit. Plus the Russians have been working on the X47 Plane which is suppose to be able to break into Orbit and be able to drop in from Orbit. Fly around the Planet etc etc.

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    re: Space programs and their support among the population [W:91]

    A Space Hotel Orbiting a Planet Near You.....

    Russia, the current leader in space travel after the U.S. retired their shuttle missions, says that a private company Orbital Technologies will complete a luxury hotel that will orbit 217 miles above the Earth in weightless space by 2016.

    The Commercial Space Station, otherwise known as CSS, will be able to accommodate only 7 guests at a time at a cost of around $163,000 for a five day stay. Which isn't really that bad as you can spend almost as much here on Earth at the Royal Penthouse Suite at the Hotel President Wilson in Geneva, Switzerland at around $50,000 a night or the Ty Warner Penthouse at the Four Seasons in NY for about $35,000 a night. But that does not include your ride to your intergalactic paradise which will be provided at the small round trip cost of $800,000 by, most likely, RKK Energia.

    The 1st space hotel will have four rooms and will be comfortable but slightly cramped. The air and water will be recycled, so get used to drinking used urine, and guests will have to get used to using "space toilets" which use no water but air to suck down the waste. Showers are going to be sealed so water doesn't escape as there will be no gravity so it would bead and float off. Dinner will be gourmetish consisting of good food but will be prepared back on Earth ahead of time and reheated in microwave type devices. The only really bad part of the dining experience or late night Earth watching will be the no alcohol rule.....snip~



    A Space Hotel Orbiting A Planet Near You. A New Adventure in Luxury Travel|Alien-UFO-Research|

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    re: Space programs and their support among the population [W:91]

    I'm a huge supporter of space funding, both for scientific, commercial, and colonization avenues. A differentiation I don't think is made enough today. But things I'd like to see if I had a dream list?

    1. A doubling or tripling of NASA's budget, with a large amount of that money earmarked for major hard projects like the construction of a lunar base, the assembly and transportation of a mass driver, and the creation of orbital fuel depots in an open commercial contract system. This will accelerate us on concrete steps to an expanded presence in space as well as fostering greater commercial inroads and competition which will in turn hopefully reduce costs.

    2. The abolition of FAA regulations and restrictions on test aircraft and a severe curbing of restrictions on space launch site construction and launch authorization from the EPA.

    3. MASSIVE overhaul of ITAR if not its outright abolition.

    4. Dream wish would be to allow real experimentation and testing of NPP technology but we'll see.

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    Hope they can let ya have some Music in that Hotel. Bad enough ya can't have sex, drink any booze, nor smoke any weed in Space. But hey if ya got 800k to waste. I guess ya can go and sleep up there and not do a whole lot.....huh?


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    re: Space programs and their support among the population [W:91]

    I think our space colonization should be the #1 priority for our species.
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    re: Space programs and their support among the population [W:91]

    I think that , in the beginning, NASA was a great organization and great idea. In between, it has become a bloated pork barrel project that might be better served by private enterprise. I don't like monopolization potentials for communication and navigation satellites, but that has already occurred. The World and its' citizens have a greater problem that requires the same or greater level of dedication, money and physical effort and that is the imminent threat of Global Warming. The Energy problem and we have an Energy problem when enough solar power lands on Texas to power the World and we don't harness it. Can we claim ignorance? What's our collective excuse? Let's just wait until it is too late and the people who own bubbles can live a little longer.

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