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    Re: Lying cops...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Of course they should be allowed to lie. There is no need to be honorable to the dishonorable, and criminals are dishonorable by definition.
    The problem being that not everyone the police interrogate is guilty of a crime.
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    Re: Lying cops...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    The problem being that not everyone the police interrogate is guilty of a crime.
    Far and away, most of them aren't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    Why do liberals hate the police so much?
    This is a fairly stupid retort and does nothing to address the question posed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Far and away, most of them aren't.
    Indeed. Cops can interrogate literally 100 people before a case is done. Even though only one person is actually guilty.
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    Re: Lying cops...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Should cops be allowed to lie when interrogating someone for a crime?
    No, they should not be, lying should be instead viewed as a type of police coercion as it is essentially police coercion. Is it an absolute? Maybe not, perchance there are conditions under which cops need to lie in an interrogation. I have a hard time imagining what that condition could be; but there would need to be severe restrictions on when that could be exercised and under most cases the lying police do is to increase stress, confuse, and coerce confession. And for that dynamic, it cannot be allowed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No, they should not be, lying should be instead viewed as a type of police coercion as it is essentially police coercion. Is it an absolute? Maybe not, perchance there are conditions under which cops need to lie in an interrogation. I have a hard time imagining what that condition could be; but there would need to be severe restrictions on when that could be exercised and under most cases the lying police do is to increase stress, confuse, and coerce confession. And for that dynamic, it cannot be allowed.
    Hmm..coercing. A few decades ago they stopped police from hiding behind bill boards, bushes etc etc due to it being entrapment. Could a cop lieing during an interrogation be considered the same also?
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    Re: Lying cops...

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    I was questioned recently about someone I knew (worked with) 3 years ago. Would it have been alright for the police to lie to me?
    If that's what it takes to get the Guilty person convicted, definitely.

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    You realize that close friends and family members of murder victims are often questioned just as a matter of routine, right? You also realize that a guilty person might accuse a completely innocent person while being interrogated, right? There are plenty of situations in which innocent people might be questioned that having nothing to do with "grand stupidity".
    I am quite well aware of that. What I'm talking about is being questioned as a suspect, not as a witness. As for being falsely accused by another suspect.... If you are close enough to that person and/or situation to be reasonably suspect you are guilty of grand stupidity so far as I'm concerned.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    The problem being that not everyone the police interrogate is guilty of a crime.
    True. Many of them are simply guilty of what I call "Grand Stupidity", which is best defined as being stupid enough to be in a place, or know people who might get you involved with the police in the first place.

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    Re: Lying cops...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    If you are close enough to that person and/or situation to be reasonably suspect you are guilty of grand stupidity so far as I'm concerned.
    Your girlfriend is murdered. You are questioned. Tigger is immediately a reasonable suspect. Tigger is grandly stupid?

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    Re: Lying cops...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    True. Many of them are simply guilty of what I call "Grand Stupidity", which is best defined as being stupid enough to be in a place, or know people who might get you involved with the police in the first place.
    So its "Grand Stupidity" to know someone that just committed murder without any priors and absolutely no reason to think they would commit such a murder and then try and pin it on you? Seems to me that the only way to avoid such a thing is to be a hermit living by yourself in the mountains with absolutely no ties...and even then someone that saw you might try and pin it on you just to draw attention away from themselves.
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    Re: Lying cops...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    Why do liberals hate the police so much?
    Obviously you understand nothing about political affiliations and position opinions.
    Generally, Conservative folks distrust police, and are concerned about strong COTUS individual rights.
    Your snarking just makes you look extremely ignorant of politics and critical thinking.
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