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    Re: Lying cops...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Should cops be allowed to lie when interrogating someone for a crime?
    I'll just say that....cops are known for their 'inventive' interrogation techniques

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    Re: Lying cops...

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I don't think that's fair to the justice system. Cops are professionally trained in interrogation techniques. These techniques include lying to a suspect to gauge their reaction. What I could agree to would be that, if a cop has lied to someone on trial, that he be questioned about it:
    There's a famous case where the police hooked some guy up to a "lie detector" which was actually just the copy machine and every time the guy the answered a question, they'd push the copy button and out would come a piece of paper saying he was lying. Lol.

    Actually that went too far, while cops can engage in some lying, they cannot use props to manufacture fake "evidence". For example, they could tell a suspect that his buddy has given a statement saying that the suspect is completely guilty. They could not write up a fake statement and show that to the suspect.

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    Re: Lying cops...

    im going to answer yes, but admit it doesnt seem right

    im answering yes because i dont see the harm in it, if im being interrogated and the cops lie to me and im innocent it doenst change anything.
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    Re: Lying cops...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Should cops be allowed to lie when interrogating someone for a crime?
    When I think of a cop interrogating a guilty person, then I easily answer 'yes' to the question. But when I think of a cop interrogating an innocent person, I'm conflicted. An innocent person, particularly one without much confidence, could be easily manipulated into a false confession when confronted with lies and perhaps promises of a plea deal. Because of that, I'm not entirely sure how I stand on the issue. I will say that I would never so much as enter an interrogation room without a lawyer - innocent or not. It's crazy to me how many people talk to the police w/o representation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    When I think of a cop interrogating a guilty person, then I easily answer 'yes' to the question. But when I think of a cop interrogating an innocent person, I'm conflicted. An innocent person, particularly one without much confidence, could be easily manipulated into a false confession when confronted with lies and perhaps promises of a plea deal. Because of that, I'm not entirely sure how I stand on the issue. I will say that I would never so much as enter an interrogation room without a lawyer - innocent or not. It's crazy to me how many people talk to the police w/o representation.
    hmmm now thats interesting, i was looking at it from MY perspective, if "I" could be talked into a plea and i instantly thought no, but a 18 yr old or someone much weaker could.

    Damn that conflicts me too now, good job TPD
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    Re: Lying cops...

    Yes...

    BUT some exceptions - including ones recognized by courts.

    1. An officer can not lie in offering a deal and then not keeping it. IF an officer promises "we won't prosecute IF..." generally that can not be a lie.

    2. An officer can not threaten to harm a person ("tell me what happened or I'm going to beat you, put you with inmates who will assault you, " etc.

    3. An officer can not tell someone "this is off record" ... as that contradicts Miranda.

    4. An officer can not lie claiming to have a search warrant when he/she doesn't.

    5. An officer can not lie in offering tangible benefits in exchange for information or confession - and it be a lie. For example, "I'll let you attend your mother's funeral if you tell me..." and then not do so.

    6. While the courts might disagree, I think an officer should not be able to lie if it would cause extreme emotional distress. "Your mother was so upset over this she had a stroke and is in the hospital. Wouldn't you like to tell the truth and clear your conscious before she dies?" - when that is a lie.


    Acceptable lies are "your friend confessed, but said you are the one who pulled the trigger" - when all that is a lie. Or "we have a dna sample showing you did it." Things of that nature are scuzzy, but legal.

    I never interrogate anyone and, candidly, prefer they don't say much. They joke my "Miranda" warning is "sit down, shut up and no one will get hurt." I really don't want to hear about it, but then I'm just FWC and almost never actually arrest or ticket anyone. If something need be done, I offer some alternative self imposed punishment the person can instead opt for if he/she wishes - and they all take the option, whatever it is.

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    Re: Lying cops...

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    hmmm now thats interesting, i was looking at it from MY perspective, if "I" could be talked into a plea and i instantly thought no, but a 18 yr old or someone much weaker could.

    Damn that conflicts me too now, good job TPD
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    Re: Lying cops...

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    You should watch the movie Under Suspicion with Gene Hackman and Morgan Freeman.
    I like both those actors a lot ill have to check it out, thanks!
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    Re: Lying cops...

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    When I think of a cop interrogating a guilty person, then I easily answer 'yes' to the question. But when I think of a cop interrogating an innocent person, I'm conflicted. An innocent person, particularly one without much confidence, could be easily manipulated into a false confession when confronted with lies and perhaps promises of a plea deal. Because of that, I'm not entirely sure how I stand on the issue. I will say that I would never so much as enter an interrogation room without a lawyer - innocent or not. It's crazy to me how many people talk to the police w/o representation.
    Very good point.
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    Re: Lying cops...

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post

    1. An officer can not lie in offering a deal and then not keeping it. IF an officer promises "we won't prosecute IF..." generally that can not be a lie.
    Actually, any officer saying that they promise not to prosecute is lying because it is not the power of the police to choose which crimes to prosecute.

    Rather, that's a power of the prosecutor.

    I heard a story on the radio about an older teenage girl who was a suspect in a death. One of the interrogating police officers made a promise not to prosecute if she admitted to the crime and took a plea deal. But the prosecutor decided to prosecute her for murder anyways, and she was convicted. Her defense lawyer used the fact that the police officer made a promise not to prosecute and her young age to get her conviction overturned.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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