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    Is it unreasonable for massive spending cuts to be made before taxes are increased?

    Is it unreasonable for massive spending cuts to be made before taxes are increased?



    Yes. Because taxing the hell out of the rich is more important than paying off debt.
    No. Because people with a spending problem shouldn't be given more money
    I'm not sure.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for massive spending cuts to be made before taxes are increase

    The federal government has to quit giving money away. Yes, we need massive spending cuts, and to quit playing partisan games pretending that the spending problem is just the "other" party. Both parties are parties of big government, they just disagree to a point on which programs need to be increased. No one is talking about reducing government.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for massive spending cuts to be made before taxes are increase

    the tax increases aren't massive. we're talking about raising payroll tax back to the normal rate, and raising the top marginal rate to 39.6 from 35. a massive tax increase would have been raising the top rate back to 70+, which was the rate that Kennedy chose for his massive tax cut from 91 percent.

    as for spending cuts, they need to happen, and they need to be carefully phased in. the demand side is probably more vulnerable than the supply side.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for massive spending cuts to be made before taxes are increase

    The benefits of spending cuts can be realized today; the benefits of tax increases may not be realized until April 15 next year.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for massive spending cuts to be made before taxes are increase

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher
    The benefits of spending cuts can be realized today; the benefits of tax increases may not be realized until April 15 next year.
    Yeah, most people don't wait until 4/15, specifically those who know that they're getting money back.

    I'm going to be dodging a lot of punches this season because of a few changes to the IRC, not the least of which is the child credit.

    Oh wait, what am I talking about? A reduction in child tax credit clearly is an increase for the rich, not the poor. We all know that it's the rich who have more kids than they can handle.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for massive spending cuts to be made before taxes are increase

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Yeah, most people don't wait until 4/15, specifically those who know that they're getting money back.

    I'm going to be dodging a lot of punches this season because of a few changes to the IRC, not the least of which is the child credit.

    Oh wait, what am I talking about? A reduction in child tax credit clearly is an increase for the rich, not the poor. We all know that it's the rich who have more kids than they can handle.
    I did not know that. Very interesting. I believe the rich can handle their kids better simply because they can afford to care for them in the first place.

    However the rich should utilize more restraint regarding sex and use condoms more.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for massive spending cuts to be made before taxes are increase

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    The benefits of spending cuts can be realized today; the benefits of tax increases may not be realized until April 15 next year.
    This is incorrect. The current level of spending was set in the last appropriation bills for most departments. And raising taxes now raises the amount taken out of paychecks now, as well as boosting the amount of estimated tax payments. So you actually have it in reverse. The benefits of spending cuts will only happen after the existing appropriations runs out where tax increases will be realized in every paycheck.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for massive spending cuts to be made before taxes are increase

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    I did not know that. Very interesting. I believe the rich can handle their kids better simply because they can afford to care for them in the first place.

    However the rich should utilize more restraint regarding sex and use condoms more.
    Well, I have these radical, insane beliefs - something like "you shouldn't have kids you can't afford". I'd rather Madonna or Angelina Jolie adopt an African tribe than see one crack ho have a kid she'll never be able to afford.

    I know that some women have actually had kids for the purpose of tax breaks, which is appalling in and of itself.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for massive spending cuts to be made before taxes are increase

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Well, I have these radical, insane beliefs - something like "you shouldn't have kids you can't afford". I'd rather Madonna or Angelina Jolie adopt an African tribe than see one crack ho have a kid she'll never be able to afford.

    I know that some women have actually had kids for the purpose of tax breaks, which is appalling in and of itself.
    I know people who buy houses for tax breaks. Is that appalling, also?

    Crack hos and African tribes? Very interesting points.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for massive spending cuts to be made before taxes are increase

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Is it unreasonable for massive spending cuts to be made before taxes are increased?



    Yes. Because taxing the hell out of the rich is more important than paying off debt.
    No. Because people with a spending problem shouldn't be given more money
    I'm not sure.
    Doesn't really matter which is done first, both need to be done. This "War on Terror" has been the longest and one of the most expensive wars in American history, and its the only one that didn't come along with a tax increase to pay for it, which is only reasonable since we expect the government to be spending a lot more to fund a war. Frankly I can't think of why they not only increased spending but also decreased revenue at the same time, I don't think any American after 9/11 was not ready to give more if the nation asked to go to war.

    Regardless, those wars are so far completely unpaid and its time we pay for what we purchased.

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