View Poll Results: Should people on welfare and unemployment have to work for the state they draw from?

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Thread: Is it unreasonable to ask people or unemployment to work for the state they draw from

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    Is it unreasonable to ask people or unemployment to work for the state they draw from

    Why shouldn't they show up every morning at the state garage and pick up trash, do yard work, janitor work and pay back some of the entitlement they draw?

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    Re: Is it unreasonable to ask people or unemployment to work for the state they draw

    Because they are not able to get "real" jobs they should be offered "make work" jobs? Do you realize the level of supervision required to get morons, that are "ordered" to work, to actually do something productive? Also, what do you do with those that you fire (or do not hire) that would otherwise do this work (assuming that it actually needed to be done)?
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    Re: Is it unreasonable to ask people or unemployment to work for the state they draw

    I think every single person over the age of 18 who is not demonstrably mentally or physically disabled ought to be required to work 6-8 hours every single day in order to qualify for welfare. Unemployment is a bit different since the individual paid into it while working but I don't think they should be able to get more out of the system than they put in, ie. if you paid into unemployment for X weeks, you should only be able to draw unemployment for Y weeks until your fund is empty.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable to ask people or unemployment to work for the state they draw

    As a compromise, maybe they could show up for training in alternate fields, work on their resume, help out with volunteer groups (such as animal shelters), do job searches...etc.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable to ask people or unemployment to work for the state they draw

    People pay for unemployment insurance. You can't just "quit" and get it - your job must be lost.
    I have no trouble with it - I claimed it for 6 months or something like that a few years ago myself.

    There is not a lot of "welfare" outside of EBT/Foodstamps is there? I guess there are some housing
    subsidies, free phones and I know some claim "low income" to get breaks on their utility bills that
    we all pay for, but realistically I think EBT/Foodstamps is the real crux of "welfare" today - am I
    wrong - I don't follow it.

    Food stamps run $28/$33 per week per person in the household. I don't see where making some
    one work for the state on that is going to help, but I do think we should teach people to be more
    self sustaining instead of just giving them a hand out. I'm learning about aquaponics right now and
    am amazed at what they "say" you can produce in such a small space. I think people that get
    food stamps should have to repay it when they can.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable to ask people or unemployment to work for the state they draw

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    I think every single person over the age of 18 who is not demonstrably mentally or physically disabled ought to be required to work 6-8 hours every single day in order to qualify for welfare. Unemployment is a bit different since the individual paid into it while working but I don't think they should be able to get more out of the system than they put in, ie. if you paid into unemployment for X weeks, you should only be able to draw unemployment for Y weeks until your fund is empty.
    Then what would the unemployment benefits system do with all the extra money? If someone can only draw less than what they put in, and some people put in but never draw out, you're going to just start piling up money in the sytem.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable to ask people or unemployment to work for the state they draw

    I am all for it if what they do is a net positive for the state. IF it cost more to supervise them than the work they do as someone pointed out above, then no. Not if it is punishment for being on some social program.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable to ask people or unemployment to work for the state they draw

    Doing so would take jobs from the people that are already doing those things.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable to ask people or unemployment to work for the state they draw

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Then what would the unemployment benefits system do with all the extra money? If someone can only draw less than what they put in, and some people put in but never draw out, you're going to just start piling up money in the sytem.
    Then when you retire, you get all of the money that you put in, plus whatever portion your employer put in, in addition to whatever social security benefits you also paid in. You should never get more than you paid into the system, plus whatever interest has accrued on your investment.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable to ask people or unemployment to work for the state they draw

    It was very difficult in the Nineteenth Century to even get slaves to work, how would you ever get the free loons to do a damn thing today? They'd all show up stoned anyway.

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