View Poll Results: Should people on welfare and unemployment have to work for the state they draw from?

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Thread: Is it unreasonable to ask people or unemployment to work for the state they draw from

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    Re: Is it unreasonable to ask people or unemployment to work for the state they draw

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    unemployment is already dependent on taking a similar job offer in your field, at least in my state.

    i'm simply saying that it makes no sense to have a highly skilled worker filling a lower tier job in order to collect the insurance that they've already paid for. the system can always benefit from tweaking, though. the insurance isn't intended to last forever, and you shouldn't be able to collect if you won't take a similar job in your field.
    I agree, but I think it shouldn't last if you are qualified to take a job paying more than the unemployment itself after 26 weeks

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    Re: Is it unreasonable to ask people or unemployment to work for the state they draw

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    So you are just assuming that's the case? I mean seriously do you have any data or maybe a personal story, something? I'm just curious where 6 months came from. Why not 8 months? Why not 5 months? Why not 3? What's the different between 3 and 6?
    The program was designed for 26 weeks not 2 GD years. This country used to be filled full of people with pride that wanted to work and contribute to society, now we have an incredible population that thinks you should get every penny possible for free.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable to ask people or unemployment to work for the state they draw

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    I agree, but I think it shouldn't last if you are qualified to take a job paying more than the unemployment itself after 26 weeks
    i'm certainly willing to consider the amount of time one should be able to collect benefits while turning down other job offers. perhaps the number of weeks could be more dependent on the economy's current growth rate.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable to ask people or unemployment to work for the state they draw

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    How about we make them work after the first 26 weeks or draw, the unemployment plan was not designed to go for years.
    How about we cap executive salaries so corporations would have more incentive to pay higher wages to their labor force, or to hire larger number of laborers.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable to ask people or unemployment to work for the state they draw

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    How about we cap executive salaries so corporations would have more incentive to pay higher wages to their labor force, or to hire larger number of laborers.
    how about letting those who own the company make such decisions. and a company is stupid to pay more than the going rate for the commodity known as labor

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    Re: Is it unreasonable to ask people or unemployment to work for the state they draw

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    how about letting those who own the company make such decisions. and a company is stupid to pay more than the going rate for the commodity known as labor
    The company is stupider to pay executives bloated salaries. Especially when they lose customers because they pay those bloated salaries to executives rather than to updating equipment or hiring more employees to provide better quality service to their customers.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable to ask people or unemployment to work for the state they draw

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    The company is stupider to pay executives bloated salaries. Especially when they lose customers because they pay those bloated salaries to executives rather than to updating equipment or hiring more employees to provide better quality service to their customers.
    in those situations that is true.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable to ask people or unemployment to work for the state they draw

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    How about we cap executive salaries so corporations would have more incentive to pay higher wages to their labor force, or to hire larger number of laborers.
    Why should we, liberals would rather sit at home and draw?

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    Re: Is it unreasonable to ask people or unemployment to work for the state they draw

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Why should we, liberals would rather sit at home and draw?
    There are plenty of liberals who are out working right now, just as there are plenty of conservatives out there collecting unemployment and getting welfare.

    And the reason why we should is because those executives demanding such inflated pay means that those corporations have less money with which to hire laborers.

    Corporations have limited amounts of capital and income. The more of that money that is paid to executives, the less money that corporation has to hire more workers to provide greater quality services or to expand and grow.

    So by capping executive pay we allow corporations to limit how much they pay to executives, which allows a greater amount of that pie of capital and income to be pay for other things, which include more workers or paying more money to higher quality workers.

    Which also has the side effect of increasing the number of employees that corporation has, which means we have fewer people collecting unemployment and needing welfare.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable to ask people or unemployment to work for the state they draw

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    There are plenty of liberals who are out working right now, just as there are plenty of conservatives out there collecting unemployment and getting welfare.

    And the reason why we should is because those executives demanding such inflated pay means that those corporations have less money with which to hire laborers.

    Corporations have limited amounts of capital and income. The more of that money that is paid to executives, the less money that corporation has to hire more workers to provide greater quality services or to expand and grow.

    So by capping executive pay we allow corporations to limit how much they pay to executives, which allows a greater amount of that pie of capital and income to be pay for other things, which include more workers or paying more money to higher quality workers.

    Which also has the side effect of increasing the number of employees that corporation has, which means we have fewer people collecting unemployment and needing welfare.
    actually if we can get top management talent for less money the money saved should go to the stockholders.

    paying more than the going rate for labor is stupid

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