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Does Paul Ryan's vote for the fiscal cliff deal hurt his chances?

See above.

  • Yes

    Votes: 6 42.9%

  • No

    Votes: 4 28.6%

  • He was never going to be the nominee anyway.

    Votes: 4 28.6%
  • Total voters
    14
ttwtt78640 said:
Giving taxes to the gov't is patriotic, yet doing so voluntarily is silly? That, my friend, is a very, very lame position; so it must be more patriotic to await the draft than to volunteer for military service too. Hmm...
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Actually, I was drafted but I went RA for three years.
 
Yes. The American people wanted this to pass and all those "no" votes that the republicans cast will cost them next election cycle.
 
Ryan has always been a moderate establishment Republican. Not a conservative-libertarian Tea Partier.

Any well researched Republican should know this. This vote is hardly a deviation from his record.
 
Tigger said:
For some reason, I was confusing Paul Ryan with Rand Paul.... Both individuals who I wouldn't help out of a burning car considering their voting records.
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They aren't all that similar.

What is your problem with them?
 
Risky Thicket said:
Certainly from where you stand politically I can understand how you might have that perspective. Ryan is on the outer edge of conservatism. You passed Ryan on your rush to the reactionary right long, long ago. There's middle ground, there's right of center, there's far right, there's extreme right, there's reality. You are beyond that and to the right.
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Damn Straight, and anyone to my Left is a Liberal.
 
Its natural for people to believe that most everyone thinks like they do, that is not the case many times. There is a far right faction on this forum that seem to think that what they believe translates into the hearts of most americans...not a chance.
There will be no far right nutters elected president for quite a while and my perspective can be just as wrong as yours.
The way I see it the GOP had this election in the bag...they got pulled to far to the right and went after everything and anything but the rich...and they went down the tube...and STILL there are conservatives trying to convince the rest of the gop thats the only way to win elections...WE HEARD that all during this last campaign...we MUST stick to our principles to win..no new taxs...cut entitlements...social security medicare..medicaid...no one deserves a minimum wage...no one is entitled to a pension....public workers make too much money they are a major cause of the deficit...we wont pay for any abortions...abortion should be illegal..and on and on and on and on and on...lol...and somehow you think this is going to work next time ??? lol
 
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Tigger said:
Damn Straight, and anyone to my Left is a Liberal.
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And anyone who lives north of me is a GD Yankee....that is how the world is supposed to work :)
 
LOL. This poll shows conservatives still don't get it. Who is it going to hurt him with?

Romney did not lose the election because of the conservative vote.
 
Tigger said:
Damn Straight, and anyone to my Left is a Liberal.
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Then I must state clearly, with no hesitation or remorse...Im proud to be a liberal in your eyes tigger
 
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