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    Re: Should someone who commits a crime with a gun be forever banned from owning one?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    As many here have stated, I say felonies, yes. Incidental stuff where there was no criminal intent involving the gun, no. I'd also be willing to allow exceptions for rifles wanted for home protection only (can't leave home with it) especially in high crime or isolated rural areas where more than the person in question resides in some cases.
    Just about everything in Florida in a felony.

    How many on this forum committed a felony - specifically a drug felony - in the past? Yet I would not be surprised that most hypocritically answered this question "yes" - yet think THEY should still be able to own a firearm.

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    Re: Should someone who commits a crime with a gun be forever banned from owning one?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    After they have served the time for the crime, and met the states requirements for release. They should be allowed to have all the rights previously taken away reinstated. So I voted NO.
    I think it should rather be the opposite. After all time is served, etc, all rights should be once again recognized. If the government wishes to further punish beyond that, it must make its case as to why. Felons can petition to have their rights observed again; but I think that for our system of limited government, it makes more sense that the government would need to justify its infinite force against the individual.
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    Re: Should someone who commits a crime with a gun be forever banned from owning one?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Just about everything in Florida in a felony.

    How many on this forum committed a felony - specifically a drug felony - in the past? Yet I would not be surprised that most hypocritically answered this question "yes" - yet think THEY should still be able to own a firearm.
    No drug crime at all here. Plenty of misdemeanors though, lol. I don't agree with you though. Drug use is actually down I think in the US.
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    Re: Should someone who commits a crime with a gun be forever banned from owning one?

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    A car accident doesn't carry any legal action (sometimes it does though) and you can be convicted. Let's make it certain there will a criminal charge and punishment, say you drunk driving and got in an accident and killed someone. Does that person still get a gun? I also hope your pro-choice.
    What does a DUI accident have to do with owning a gun?
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    Re: Should someone who commits a crime with a gun be forever banned from owning one?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I think it should rather be the opposite. After all time is served, etc, all rights should be once again recognized. If the government wishes to further punish beyond that, it must make its case as to why. Felons can petition to have their rights observed again; but I think that for our system of limited government, it makes more sense that the government would need to justify its infinite force against the individual.
    I would have no problem with that either.
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    Re: Should someone who commits a crime with a gun be forever banned from owning one?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Don't people live with the consequences of their actions by going to jail?
    Yes, but it continues after they leave. That charge just doesn't magically disappear.

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    Re: Should someone who commits a crime with a gun be forever banned from owning one?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Just about everything in Florida in a felony.

    How many on this forum committed a felony - specifically a drug felony - in the past? Yet I would not be surprised that most hypocritically answered this question "yes" - yet think THEY should still be able to own a firearm.
    Felonies with a gun... I'll add any felony involving any deadly weapon, domestic violence or sexual assault even if a deadly weapon wasn't used.
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    Re: Should someone who commits a crime with a gun be forever banned from owning one?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    #1 This issue has nothing to do with abortion, nothing at all. Nice Red Herring for the money though.
    #2 Yes the car example is horrible and the red herring abortion thing is worse.
    #3 Yes because 18 year old's often make good choices. So why should it be 18? how about 12 or 11? Why stop there if you are going to pick an arbitrary number to deny someone a right.

    Outside of a bunch of bad examples and fallacy arguments you got nothing. I mean really, nothing.
    Fine any age where someone makes a really stupid irresponsible choice, they have to live with the consequences. If they are charged I don't care how old they are, they still got charged.

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    Re: Should someone who commits a crime with a gun be forever banned from owning one?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    What does a DUI accident have to do with owning a gun?
    If you kill someone your convicted of a violent offense and voila you can't buy a gun, due to a very irresponsible choice to drink and drive.

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    Re: Should someone who commits a crime with a gun be forever banned from owning one?

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    If you kill someone your convicted of a violent offense and voila you can't buy a gun, due to a very irresponsible choice to drink and drive.
    Yes, the government certainly is interested in restricting the rights of the individual. Yet in the context of this thread should one regain the full exercise of rights? I'd argue that in the DUI case, one shouldn't have lost their right to own a gun in the first place since the accident did not involved firearms. Additionally, once punishment time is over, all rights should once again be recognized. The fact that gun rights are restricted for non-gun related offenses only shows the level to which the government will go to control us all.
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