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    Re: Should someone who commits a crime with a gun be forever banned from owning one?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    Should someone who commits a crime with a gun be forever banned from owning one?
    depends, if its a crime of violence such as armed robbery-intimidating a rape victim with a gun or premeditated murder etc absolutely

    if its say

    Poaching a deer with a rifle

    carrying without a license but with no intent to use the gun against someone criminally

    refusal to register a weapon in states with socialist gun laws

    smoking weed while possessing a gun

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    Re: Should someone who commits a crime with a gun be forever banned from owning one?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Why should these crimes be treated different if someone used a knife or some other weapon to rob a liquor store or stabbed someone not in self defense or defense of your home or defense of others? Armed robbery is still armed robber and assault with a weapon is still assault with a weapon.
    The big difference would be the deck is stacked rather higher for a firearm killing whomever the shooter is trying for and from a distance greater than arm length. There maynot be a difference after the fact as dead is dead, how some ever, but the effort between stabbing and tussling with your victim vs the squeeze of a trigger...

    I'd agree with you if we were talking DUI with a mini car, truck, or bus but the lethality of a firearm vs a knife tends to lean the argument away from being similar.

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    Re: Should someone who commits a crime with a gun be forever banned from owning one?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    Should someone who commits a crime with a gun be forever banned from owning one?
    This will probably shock a lot of people around here, but YES I do believe that anyone who is convicted of a crime with a firearm should be permanently banned from continued ownership of any firearm.

    However, I would suggest that we need to make sure that the act that was committed was actually a crime and that the firearm was a significant portion of the criminal act. Speeding or jaywalking while carrying a firearm should not revoke their second amendment privileges. In fact no crinimal act in which the firearm was not a major factor should revoke the gun owner's rights. Likewise, any use of the firearm in a defensive manner which is considered as self-defense should not revoke the right, even if a civil finding is made against the gun owner.

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    Re: Should someone who commits a crime with a gun be forever banned from owning one?

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    The big difference would be the deck is stacked rather higher for a firearm killing whomever the shooter is trying for and from a distance greater than arm length.
    It still doesn't make you any less of a victim if someone uses a knife,baseball or the threat of just physical force to rob you or someone attempts to take your life. This basically amounts to charging a drug dealer in Oklahoma with failure to get a tax stamp of Marijuana even though pot is illegal in Oklahoma. Its just a bull**** charge to use in order to slap on extra time.

    Should someone who stabs someone with a pencil be permanently banned from ever using pencils,pens and other pencil shaped objects?
    Should someone who stabs someone or robs someone with a knife be permanently banned from ever touching a knife?
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    Re: Should someone who commits a crime with a gun be forever banned from owning one?

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    Anyone who has committed a violent offense should be banned form owning a gun.
    So if I got convicted of battery when I was 18 because some guy got a little too fresh and I kicked him in the balls repeatedly until he vomited, I should never, ever, ever be allowed to have a gun?
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    Re: Should someone who commits a crime with a gun be forever banned from owning one?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    Should someone who commits a crime with a gun be forever banned from owning one?
    IMO, no. Once someone has completed their punishment period, including parole, the full of their rights should be recognized once again.
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    Re: Should someone who commits a crime with a gun be forever banned from owning one?

    It totally depends upon the crime. IMO, if someone is using their second amendment rights to victimize others, and take their rights away from them, then yes they should be banned from owning a firearm.

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    Re: Should someone who commits a crime with a gun be forever banned from owning one?

    I'm not voting because there should be an "other" option.

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    Re: Should someone who commits a crime with a gun be forever banned from owning one?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage
    Nope.Once someone serves their sentence they should have all their rights reinstated. If they can't be trusted to have their rights then they should be let out out in the first place.
    I'd agree with this if crime recidivism rates weren't what they were, or even if prison was a valuable tool of "rehabilitation".

    You give a gun to a guy that just got of jail on a gun felony, and you know 3 things:

    1) He's seriously pissed off.
    2) Mentally speaking, he's no better off now than he was when he got in.
    3) He has documented history of firearm misuse.

    I understand the concept of rights and not wanting to infringe upon them, but you would do the public a major disservice to allow for this.

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    Re: Should someone who commits a crime with a gun be forever banned from owning one?

    I would also like to add this question for people who say they would allow it:

    Would you allow someone who was convicted of child molestation to adopt?

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