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Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

Is it unreasonable to pay a little more?

  • Yes. I'm a greedy bastard!! I need MORE!!!

    Votes: 21 27.6%
  • No. There's comes a point in wealthiness where it just doesn't even matter anymore.

    Votes: 48 63.2%
  • I'm not sure.

    Votes: 7 9.2%

  • Total voters
    76
its easy to claim that taxing other people who are more successful than you are is justified and that when they complain they are "whining"

until you start paying the same amounts as those making 400K or more a year, you really have no credibility on this issue

But accurate all the same.
 
Nope. But it's your logic based on what you said elsewhere.

he can run but he can't hide. he should have quit while he was behind
 
But accurate all the same.

no its not-its your opinion which I reject because you aren't paying as much as they are

you claim to work for some community college in Iowa IIRC. no way you are making enough to be subject to the Obama tax hikes though you will be paying more despite the promises of the turd in chief
 
It is not at all unreasonable to ask the guy making over $250,000 a year to pay a somewhat higher percentage that the guy making $25,000 a year. The former has far more than most; the latter is struggling to pay bills and buy groceries already.
 
But accurate all the same.

not even close. you can try to play semantics games using "percentages" all you want. but the plain truth is, the rich pay more taxes, in actual dollars, than the poor.
 
stop lying-they pay far more money overall

and you try to use non progressive taxes to claim that the poor pay more overall

on progressive taxes the rich pay far far more

on non progressive taxes the rich pay more actual dollars

The rich pay a far lower percentage of their income in taxes when all taxes are figured in. That means they have less "pain" paying them too.. There is no way out of that.
You have it good and still whine. What does that make you?
 
they pretend that when you add up sales taxes, smokes taxes, dog licenses, car registration etc they overall rate of the poor is about the same as the rich

in actual dollars its not even close but they ignore that

soooooo..... are we supposed to believe that rich people don't pay the same sales tax rate? don't pay cigarette tax, dog licenses, car registration? What should we do with their astronomical excise taxes they pay for their outrageously expensive cars, homes, boats, etc.?
 
no its not-its your opinion which I reject because you aren't paying as much as they are

you claim to work for some community college in Iowa IIRC. no way you are making enough to be subject to the Obama tax hikes though you will be paying more despite the promises of the turd in chief
Nope. Visit a few fact checking sites.
 
not even close. you can try to play semantics games using "percentages" all you want. but the plain truth is, the rich pay more taxes, in actual dollars, than the poor.

I'm not measuring them against the poor. Nor should Any of us; they are poor father all.
 
The rich pay a far lower percentage of their income in taxes when all taxes are figured in. That means they have less "pain" paying them too.. There is no way out of that.
You have it good and still whine. What does that make you?

boo hoo. they are still paying more dollars and therefore funding more of the govt. so they are paying more than their "fair share"
 
soooooo..... are we supposed to believe that rich people don't pay the same sales tax rate? don't pay cigarette tax, dog licenses, car registration? What should we do with their astronomical excise taxes they pay for their outrageously expensive cars, homes, boats, etc.?

yeah...apparently rich people don't buy anything, don't own property, etc
 

Oh my goodness.... you're using this? Warren Buffett has a higher tax rate than his secretary! He just uses loopholes to get out of it.... It's not a tax rate issue, it's a loophole issue.

The actual fact is that if we want to look at effective tax rates... what people actually end up paying.. the average rich person pays a higher rate than the average middle class person.

Historical Average Federal Tax Rates for All Households
CBO | Effective Federal Tax Rates Under Current Law, 2001 to 2014
 
boo hoo. they are still paying more dollars and therefore funding more of the govt. so they are paying more than their "fair share"

"Fair" would seem to indicate a more equitable % of their income than they pay now. Fair should mean equally painful don't you think?
 
Oh my goodness.... you're using this? Warren Buffett has a higher tax rate than his secretary! He just uses loopholes to get out of it.... It's not a tax rate issue, it's a loophole issue.

The actual fact is that if we want to look at effective tax rates... what people actually end up paying.. the average rich person pays a higher rate than the average middle class person.

Historical Average Federal Tax Rates for All Households
CBO | Effective Federal Tax Rates Under Current Law, 2001 to 2014

What you posted is only quite recent, not measured historically, and not really something that applies to what I am saying, but worth spending more time looking at.
 
"Fair" would seem to indicate a more equitable % of their income than they pay now. Fair should mean equally painful don't you think?

nope. when it comes to paying taxes to fund the govt, fair should be about the % of the govt you fund. if I pay more into the govt than you...you cannot accuse me of not paying my fair share. no matter what either of us makes

you and I go to mickey Ds and the bill is $20. "fair" is we each pay $10, not I pay $19.50 and you pay $.50 simply because I have more money in my pocket.
 
"Fair" would seem to indicate a more equitable % of their income than they pay now. Fair should mean equally painful don't you think?

Who decides what lines should or shouldn't be painful?

I think individual situations determine the amount of "pain" they feel when paying taxes. When I made 30K per year, my tax share wasn't nearly as painful as now that my household makes 120K per year....
 
Who decides what lines should or shouldn't be painful?

I think individual situations determine the amount of "pain" they feel when paying taxes. When I made 30K per year, my tax share wasn't nearly as painful as now that my household makes 120K per year....

Yet you are paying far smaller % of you income in taxes now, when you figure them all. Why is that more painful?
 
Who decides what lines should or shouldn't be painful?

I think individual situations determine the amount of "pain" they feel when paying taxes. When I made 30K per year, my tax share wasn't nearly as painful as now that my household makes 120K per year....


it's just another bedwetting, hand-wringing ploy for sympathy.
 
What you posted is only quite recent, not measured historically, and not really something that applies to what I am saying, but worth spending more time looking at.

Well I figured the only reliable and acceptable source would be straight from the gov... and they don't seem to be too current on these things... go figure.
 
Yet you are paying far smaller % of you income in taxes now, when you figure them all. Why is that more painful?

WHAT?!!??? A smaller percentage????? Heck no!! Just because Warren Buffet pays a smaller effective tax rate than his secretary doesn't mean that is typical for the rest of us!
 
Well I figured the only reliable and acceptable source would be straight from the gov... and they don't seem to be too current on these things... go figure.

Didn't complain about the source.
 
nope. when it comes to paying taxes to fund the govt, fair should be about the % of the govt you fund. if I pay more into the govt than you...you cannot accuse me of not paying my fair share. no matter what either of us makes

you and I go to mickey Ds and the bill is $20. "fair" is we each pay $10, not I pay $19.50 and you pay $.50 simply because I have more money in my pocket.

LOL You think the Govt. is a hamburger joint. No wonder you are confused. Equal pain means an equal % of you income at least.
Tax rates are based on what the person can afford to pay and always have been.
 
WHAT?!!??? A smaller percentage????? Heck no!! Just because Warren Buffet pays a smaller effective tax rate than his secretary doesn't mean that is typical for the rest of us!

Historically, the wealthy are paying a smaller percentage.
 
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