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Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

Is it unreasonable to pay a little more?

  • Yes. I'm a greedy bastard!! I need MORE!!!

    Votes: 21 27.6%

  • No. There's comes a point in wealthiness where it just doesn't even matter anymore.

    Votes: 48 63.2%

  • I'm not sure.

    Votes: 7 9.2%
  • Total voters
    76
Krhazy said:
The rich are making money not by working harder than in the past, but by harnessing cheap labor overseas and increasing technology, at the expense of American workers and their wages. Then they howl at the government for redistributing a percentage of those gains back to those people. It's greed, pure and simple. If they want people to work to earn their money, they should stop firing them.
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And if you want people who work to keep more of their money, you would be wise not to support the democrats who just went to the right of the GOP trying to stop them to raise taxes on every single person in America who has a job under the Orwellian guise of soaking the rich. Eventually folks will figure out that the dems are much more shady than the GOP when it comes to misdirection. The ignorance of apologists is their bliss. The waitress who is working two jobs will now be paying more to support those who do nothing and will have less for herself as a result. The top rates don't matter to the ubber wealthy as much as democrats seem to think it does.
 
Krhazy said:
The rich are making money not by working harder than in the past, but by harnessing cheap labor overseas and increasing technology, at the expense of American workers and their wages. Then they howl at the government for redistributing a percentage of those gains back to those people. It's greed, pure and simple. If they want people to work to earn their money, they should stop firing them.
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Yes, EVERY rich person is a manipulative CEO that makes money by shifting jobs over seas. Do you have any idea how few people that actually applies to? You're trying to group everyone in a wealth class into a neat little stereotype that you can throw rocks at.
 
TurtleDude said:
moronic class envy at its best based on silly stereotypes that have no basis in fact.
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Inequality exists. Examples abound. But to take a 'blame the rich' approach to every one of society's ills is a little simplistic.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Yes, EVERY rich person is a manipulative CEO that makes money by shifting jobs over seas. Do you have any idea how few people that actually applies to? You're trying to group everyone in a wealth class into a neat little stereotype that you can throw rocks at.
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its like the parasite advocates claiming that every heir is like Paris HIlton or every investor is another Bernie Madoff. They make these stereotypes in order to justify their own greed and coveting the wealth of others. they want to pretend that the rich are like the Sheriff of Nottingham and they are wearing green tights surrounded by Merry men!
 
Krhazy said:
The rich are making money not by working harder than in the past, but by harnessing cheap labor overseas and increasing technology, at the expense of American workers and their wages. Then they howl at the government for redistributing a percentage of those gains back to those people. It's greed, pure and simple. If they want people to work to earn their money, they should stop firing them.
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Yes but it was a democratic President--Bill Clinton--who opened the door to encourage the outflow of blue-collar jobs--and it is the democrat Bubba Obama who is investing billions of dollars in new technology to kill more American jobs like in the coal industry. Just keep believing that the GOP is the one that is destroying the economy and blame the evil CEO's while re-electing the folks who are widening that gap.
 
This is a no brainer, the very richest have had their taxs cut fully in half since Reagan from 70% to 35%. The rich and corporations never paid the percentage amount anyway.Loopholes and off shore and tax coverups and phanthom this and that has made them enjoy ridiculously low taxs and many times enjoy paying zero taxs. Its absurd that a person has hundreds of millions and makes millions in investments pays hardly nothing...income is income.
Sending any decent jobs to china and the philipines has made them far richer while the poor ranks grew and the middle class shrank downwards...its more than reasonable for them and ME to pay more
 
Wiseone said:
Totally agree, but there's two sides to this equation. We need new sources of revenue and spending cuts at the same time.
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We dont need more revenue we just need to cut spending. Washington needs to live in the real world like the rest of us.
 
earthworm said:
Of course the higher taxes will "make a dent"....every little bit helps....It angers me that Romney's, or any wealthy man's, real tax percentage was 13%, while mine at one tenth the income was 11%...
Fairness over greed.
The Bush tax cuts should never have been allowed.
I do agree that spending is out of hand...this applies to both private and public sectors, in a great many areas.
Salaries to "bosses" - way out of hand...
Truth over propaganda.
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So he pays more and that pisses you off?

Seems your the greedy one here

JEALOUSY
 
lpast said:
This is a no brainer, the very richest have had their taxs cut fully in half since Reagan from 70% to 35%. The rich and corporations never paid the percentage amount anyway.Loopholes and off shore and tax coverups and phanthom this and that has made them enjoy ridiculously low taxs and many times enjoy paying zero taxs. Its absurd that a person has hundreds of millions and makes millions in investments pays hardly nothing...income is income.
Sending any decent jobs to china and the philipines has made them far richer while the poor ranks grew and the middle class shrank downwards...its more than reasonable for them and ME to pay more
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And yet pay a higher percentage than ever. No brainer indeed.
 
lpast said:
No they are not.
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High Taxes for Some, Negative Taxes for Others

The charts below show the latest data from the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) on income and federal taxes paid by households from 1979 to 2009.[2] In Figure 1, we can see that average effective income tax rates have declined considerably for almost everyone, except the top 1 percent of earners.

The decline is most pronounced for the bottom quintile (bottom 20 percent) of households, whose average tax rate went from zero in 1979 to a new record low of -9.3 percent in 2009. That means low-income households now receive more from the IRS in terms of refundable tax credits, such as the Earned Income Tax Credit, than they pay in taxes.[3] This trend has accelerated since 2007, when their tax rate was -5.8 percent, mainly because of higher unemployment and underemployment.
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High Income Households Paying a Larger Share of Income Taxes

The share of income taxes paid by top earners has increased as well. As Figure 2 shows, the share paid by the top 20 percent of households was 94.1 percent in 2009, just shy of the record high of 94.6 percent in 2008. This is up from 64.7 percent in 1979.
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Likewise, the share of taxes paid by the top 1 percent has increased from 18.4 percent in 1979 to 38.7 percent in 2009. In contrast, the share of income taxes paid by the bottom four quintiles has decreased since 1979, particularly since 2007.
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This CBO report does confirm one ongoing trend: greater redistribution through the tax code. Progressivity of federal income taxes is at a record high. Effective income tax rates have gone negative for the bottom 40 percent of households and are approaching zero for the 20 percent of households considered the “middle class.” In contrast, tax rates on the top 1 percent of households have remained high at about 21 percent. As a result, the share of income taxes paid by the top 1 percent has increased dramatically since 1979, reaching 38.7 percent in 2009. The top 20 percent of households now pay more than 94 percent of income taxes, roughly matching the record high set in 2008.
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CBO Report Shows Increasing Redistribution in the Tax Code Despite No Long-term Trend in Income Inequality | Tax Foundation

Must be nice living in fantasy land.
 
lpast;1061311009[B said:
]You want to put your own spin on numbers.[/B]..nope...they PAY LESS a PERCENTAGE...far less...a loaf of bread when reagan was presisent was 69Cts now its 4.00 get it ?
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Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. What was the average wage under Reagan? And who is causing this inflation?

I showed you that as far as TAXES go they pay a higher percentage now. Spin it all you like.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Yes, EVERY rich person is a manipulative CEO that makes money by shifting jobs over seas. Do you have any idea how few people that actually applies to? You're trying to group everyone in a wealth class into a neat little stereotype that you can throw rocks at.
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You can insert the word "some" into my post if that makes you feel better, I thought it would be implied. Obviously not all rich people are screwing everyone else, and many of the rich support efforts to raise their own taxes.

TurtleDude said:
its the typical stereotype the left uses to justify grabbing the wealth of others
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Don't you frequently stereotype half the country as leeches to justify killing measures aimed to keep them from starvation and homelessness? Take a look in the mirror Turtle.
 
Krhazy said:
You can insert the word "some" into my post if that makes you feel better, I thought it would be implied. Obviously not all rich people are screwing everyone else, and many of the rich support effort to raise their own taxes.
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If it were not for the rich the rest of us would be much poorer.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
The recent planned tax increases won't even make a dent in our yearly deficit. It was never about reducing it, it's about making it seem like they're doing something by taxing the rich. Spending is bloated and needs to be cut, plain and simple.
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appease the ignorant masses by raising taxes on the evil greedy rich people without actually doing anything to solve the true problem.
 
Gawain said:
If it were not for the rich the rest of us would be much poorer.
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And if it were not for the rest of us, the rich would be a lot poorer. They may find that out if they keep trying to destroy their own consumer base.
 
Krhazy said:
And if it were not for the rest of us, the rich would be a lot poorer. They may find that out if they keep trying to destroy their own consumer base.
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nah, they're already filthy rich...they could just take their money and move to some south pacific island. sadly, the rest of us don't have that option.
 
Krhazy said:
And if it were not for the rest of us, the rich would be a lot poorer. They may find that out if they keep trying to destroy their own consumer base.
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Yes thats what they want to do . Thats how they got rich right? Keep destroying the rich and see how long we last.

In the words of the immortal Alvin Lee

Tax the rich, feed the poor
Till there are no rich no more

I'd love to change the world
But I don't know what to do
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OscarB63 said:
nah, they're already filthy rich...they could just take their money and move to some south pacific island. sadly, the rest of us don't have that option.
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And most are unwilling to put in the time and effort to achieve that option. Sad, huh?
 
Cephus said:
And most are unwilling to put in the time and effort to achieve that option. Sad, huh?
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Youd like it if they left huh?
Better change that sig to very slightly conservative
 
Is it unreasonable to pay a little more?


Yes, utterly. The thieves caused all the problems: let them pay for everything, since they are guilty and can afford it.
 
Cephus said:
And most are unwilling to put in the time and effort to achieve that option. Sad, huh?
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yeah...that's the really sad part. people who lack the drive and ambition sit around and cry about how evil those who do have it are. and then through sheer numbers want to take via legislation what they are unwilling to work for.


never ceases to amaze me that the guy who bitches about not being able to afford an education to better himself can afford to drive a cadillac with spinning rims and a $5K stereo system and wear 13 pounds of gold chain around his neck or can afford to drive 300 miles every other weekend to go deer hunting or buy a $20K bass boat.
 
The poll is horrible, but I voted yes. :D
 
It is always unreasonable to force people to pay for goods and services they do not receive.
 
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