View Poll Results: Is it unreasonable to pay a little more?

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  • No. There's comes a point in wealthiness where it just doesn't even matter anymore.

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Thread: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    And envy, I see.
    Yup im very envious. So envious. So many people must of been "envious" from the 40's-late 80's. Lots of "envious" people. I have so much "envy" in me.
    Call it what you wont, but loose you cheap right wing hackery rhetoric.


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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    total healthcare spending in the US is about 2.5 trillion bucks... when you combine all the money spent by government, corporations, and private citizens.

    and you are going to sit her and lie to me and say if we had UHC it would cost less than what the government.. and government alone.... pays out now?

    you would be adding to the debt and deficit substantially... and you would be forced to increase taxes substantially (not even your beloved middle class would be exempt from substantially increased taxes)

    sorry, your social agenda is not compatible with the goal of debt reduction...

    Nope, switching to a single payer system would reduce total health care costs in the country:

    Single Payer System Cost? | Physicians for a National Health Program


    What's the alternative?
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    You still are denying that Govt. revenues of less than 15% of GDP are part of the problem? No Western Govt. has revenues that low. It is unsustainable

    "2010 taxes collected by federal, state and municipal governments amounted to 24.8% of GDP." Taxation in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Yup im very envious. So envious. So many people must of been "envious" from the 40's-late 80's. Lots of "envious" people. I have so much "envy" in me.
    Call it what you wont, but loose you cheap right wing hackery rhetoric.
    Yawn. Are you done yet?

    I'm merely pointing out that flip side of calling the rich greedy is calling you envious.

    And if I'm spewing right wing hackery, you're spewing left wing hackery.

    If you think arguing is trading labels back and forth, I can play this game all day.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Its all over but the crying now, the House vote is in. Both houses of Congress have now voted to make permanent the tax cuts for those households making under $450,000.

    It took them long enough!
    yup it passed.

    i'm sure you are relieved that your taxes won't go up...

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Nope, switching to a single payer system would reduce total health care costs in the country:

    Single Payer System Cost? | Physicians for a National Health Program


    What's the alternative?
    I'm looking through your site... and I do not see a single of their studies where the state says that costs would be cut in half. All of the ones I saw were around or under 10%.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Yup im [sic] very envious. So envious. So many people must of [sic] been "envious" from the 40's-late 80's. Lots of "envious" people. I have so much "envy" in me.
    Call it what you wont [sic], but loose [sic] you [sic] cheap right wing hackery rhetoric.
    Says the illiterate person who has never had anything to offer but cheap extreme left-wing hackery rhetoric.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Tax all the wealthiest at 100% and we wouldn't come close to meeting our obligations.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Nope, switching to a single payer system would reduce total health care costs in the country:
    It means having government pay for people's health care, instead of having people pay for their own health care. No matter how you spin it, it means more government spending, not less; which is not compatible with reducing the deficit, nor with any other notion of improving the efficiency and accountability with which government manages its finances.
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    We can be Godless and free. • “Social justice” through forced redistribution of wealth. • Silencing religious opinions counts as “diversity”. • Freedom without moral and personal responsibility. • Civilization can survive the intentional undermining of the family.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Nope, switching to a single payer system would reduce total health care costs in the country:

    Single Payer System Cost? | Physicians for a National Health Program


    What's the alternative?
    go back and look at your sources... they all call for addition taxes to pay for the program.... which is exactly what i said would be necessary.

    UHC might do lots of things.. debt reduction is not one of them.
    without additional taxes to cover it, UHC would add to the deficit/debt... i'm not sure why you are disputing this very simple fact.

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