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  • No. There's comes a point in wealthiness where it just doesn't even matter anymore.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    So the dogs keep whining about it.
    Don't work out, work in.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by 274ina View Post
    WOW, more lies of the rich respouted.

    1: The HC is affordable because it CANT BE MORE than 2% or 4% of pay for 85% of USA. max limit is 8% of pay.


    2: If you are poor, you dont have to pay penalty. You get MEDICAID for nothing.

    1. Your percentages are way off in the 2/4% claim. Also, that's for the first year. They increase in later years.

    2. The cutoff for Medicaid is incredibly low. If you work for near minimum wage for close to full time, you're going to get very little subsidy for your insurance.

    Lies of the rich. That claim is the only thing that's rich. If you're trying to get by with a low wage job, you're going to get screwed.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    So the dogs keep whining about it.
    that's what all normal rational creatures do when they have parasites sucking the life out of them
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
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    2. The cutoff for Medicaid is incredibly low. If you work for near minimum wage for close to full time, you're going to get very little subsidy for your insurance.

    Lies of the rich. That claim is the only thing that's rich. If you're trying to get by with a low wage job, you're going to get screwed.
    If you are single and 40+ or an empty-nester after that you would definitely be screwed when you hit that stepped up rate adjustment if you are working for minimum wage; If you are 28 and doing it, probably not so much.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire X View Post
    The only corporations paying that low of a rate are the ones receiving major government subsidies (like GE). I don't support subsidies.

    However, most large corporations are paying way more than that.. Walmart paid around 25% in corporate tax last year, and it's one of the largest corporations in the world.
    But but the corporate tax rate is 32% not 25%...... hence Walmart is not paying the full burden. And 25% is low compared to most other countries.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    But but the corporate tax rate is 32% not 25%...... hence Walmart is not paying the full burden. And 25% is low compared to most other countries.
    And most other countries aren't doing very well right now. The US economy isn't exactly at its greatest, but there are very few countries that are doing better comparatively.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    1. Your percentages are way off in the 2/4% claim. Also, that's for the first year. They increase in later years.

    2. The cutoff for Medicaid is incredibly low. If you work for near minimum wage for close to full time, you're going to get very little subsidy for your insurance.

    Lies of the rich. That claim is the only thing that's rich. If you're trying to get by with a low wage job, you're going to get screwed.
    glutten for punishment............

    2 and 4% to 8% of pay never change. Read HR 3590

    The cut off for medicaid is 133% of poverty, not current ultra low levels. Above that you pay 4% of pay......
    133% to 400% of poverty (8% of pay).

    And yes we will all get by on a low wage job, with Full HC, its all the bourgeois have to offer in USA...........

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    typical. for some reason the fleas and ticks always think the dog is being greedy with his blood.
    And Loius the 16th said screw the fleas and ticks........LMAO.....guess what happened to him.........

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    But but the corporate tax rate is 32% not 25%...... hence Walmart is not paying the full burden. And 25% is low compared to most other countries.
    Here is a nice link from Wiki List of countries by tax rates - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia with a pile of useful information. Worth noting that China, Canada and Korea have lower corporate tax rates (a BIT lower, not tax haven low) are all doing extremely well. It is not really accurate to claim that in the long term corporate tax rates determine economic well being (ask Ireland - who DID see a huge boom when they dropped the corp rate to 10% - where I believe it remains for foreign companies). India is the outlier: it has a very low corp tax rate, but you can't easily get money OUT of there - and it's economy is doing extremely well. Yes, the first bar chart in the link left out India and China - 1/2+ of the entire world!!!
    Last edited by cannuck; 01-31-13 at 09:03 AM.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    The cutoff for Medicaid is incredibly low. If you work for near minimum wage for close to full time, you're going to get very little subsidy for your insurance.
    Trying not to drift TOO far from the thread topic: this is one part of US politics and policy that leaves me totally baffled - EVERYONE in the developed world has universal sick care coverage. Why in the name of anything reasonable would you deny people such a basic service (the insurance that is) - or worse yet deny it is their "right" ("it" being adequate, basic sick care) ????????? It is one of the economic advantages enjoyed by every one of the US's competitors (except China).

    That said, I think it is idiotic to have a minimum wage so low - or conversely government benefits so HIGH - that someone could find themselves able to choose between work and a free ride. And, before anyone thinks that through, I consider adequate sick care a basic right, not a benefit.

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