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  • No. There's comes a point in wealthiness where it just doesn't even matter anymore.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    “Upgrade[ing] our health care system…” is not relevant to addressing the debt problem. In fact, the most current attempt to do so unarguably is going to make this problem much, much, much worse.

    I don't know where you have been, but this country's health care costs and our excessive military spending will have to be addressed in addition to the wealthiest paying a little more whenever we get serious about our nations debt.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    The "wealthy" pay enough. It's time for the government to do its part.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    The "wealthy" pay enough. It's time for the government to do its part.
    You mean, actually running a fiscally responsible nation instead of using tax money to buy votes?
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    The "wealthy" pay enough. It's time for the government to do its part.
    Its all over but the crying now, the House vote is in. Both houses of Congress have now voted to make permanent the tax cuts for those households making under $450,000.

    It took them long enough!
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Yes, UHC has lowered health care cost in most of the industrialized world. We have highest health care costs on the planet for equal or lesser outcomes.
    That's because we have likely the most unhealthy collective population on the planet. We eat, drink, smoke, and stress too much, and we expect to be taken care of, rather than seeing it as our responsibility to take care of ourselves. Out of all the nations on earth, we are probably the most childish and infantile in thinking (as a group), because we've had things far too easy for so long.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    That's because we have likely the most unhealthy collective population on the planet. We eat, drink, smoke, and stress too much, and we expect to be taken care of, rather than seeing it as our responsibility to take care of ourselves. Out of all the nations on earth, we are probably the most childish and infantile in thinking (as a group), because we've had things far too easy for so long.
    That may be true to a certain degree, but it doesn't negate the higher scoring of UHC in almost every category for the most people at the most affordable cost. Aren't you from Canada? Are the Canadians ready to give up their UHC to go back to our system?

    It is said that our current health care system will bankrupt the country. And, no one has suggested a better alternative for lowering health care cost than that used in the rest of the industrialized world. Health care reform was just a bandaid, eventually we will have to upgrade.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Its all over but the crying now, the House vote is in. Both houses of Congress have now voted to make permanent the tax cuts for those households making under $450,000.

    It took them long enough!
    Excellent. Let's hope they also curb their spending and close some dead weight departments.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Excellent. Let's hope they also curb their spending and close some dead weight departments.
    I also hope, when both sides realize we have a debt problem, they will cut our most wasteful spending, our excessive military spending and unaffordable health care costs.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Yes, UHC has lowered health care cost in most of the industrialized world. We have highest health care costs on the planet for equal or lesser outcomes.

    We can no more afford that than we can to spend almost as much of the rest of the world combined on military. When enough people make that realization we will be able to address our debt.
    total healthcare spending in the US is about 2.5 trillion bucks... when you combine all the money spent by government, corporations, and private citizens.

    and you are going to sit her and lie to me and say if we had UHC it would cost less than what the government.. and government alone.... pays out now?

    you would be adding to the debt and deficit substantially... and you would be forced to increase taxes substantially (not even your beloved middle class would be exempt from substantially increased taxes)

    sorry, your social agenda is not compatible with the goal of debt reduction...

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Is it unreasonable? No
    Is it necessary? Yes
    Whats gong on? Greed
    And envy, I see.

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