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  • Yes. I'm a greedy bastard!! I need MORE!!!

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  • No. There's comes a point in wealthiness where it just doesn't even matter anymore.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    reality you say?.. hmmph

    so you are sitting here telling me that enacting UHC will mean the government will pay out less in healthcare costs than it does now? is that your argument?
    Each state provides its own health care - are you saying this is funded by the fed?

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire X View Post
    No one should ever have to pay more than 40% in total taxes.

    Sadly, with today's tax environment some people are paying above 50% total tax.
    in states with income taxes like Ohio and combined with the federal death tax, someone with earned income of 400K or more will be paying over 60% of their income in total taxes



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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    in states with income taxes like Ohio and combined with the federal death tax, someone with earned income of 400K or more will be paying over 60% of their income in total taxes
    I recall that M Romney's FEDERAL tax rate was 13%...

    So how do you explain the remaining 47% ????

    And alligator or is it crocodile tears for that poor little and whiny rich SOB, regardless of the rate..

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    I recall that M Romney's FEDERAL tax rate was 13%...

    So how do you explain the remaining 47% ????

    And alligator or is it crocodile tears for that poor little and whiny rich SOB, regardless of the rate..
    that earned income qualifier must have missed your eyes



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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that earned income qualifier must have missed your eyes
    One of the few that still believe you shouldn't have to pay the same tax rate for income you haven't earned.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    One of the few that still believe you shouldn't have to pay the same tax rate for income you haven't earned.
    I believe the rate should be the same

    ZERO

    or the same for everyone-period



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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I believe the rate should be the same

    ZERO

    or the same for everyone-period


    Of course you do! Anything that benefits the wealthy and hurts the middle class, you are for!
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by sKiTzo View Post
    I couldn't care less who's got what. I was talking about the billionaires who have more money than they could possibly ever spend because that's who I thought Obama was talking about when he said the whole fiscal cliff solution was being held up by a "small sliver of the very wealthiest who didn't want to pay a little more". I would think the small sliver is far beyond the 50-100k bracket..
    There is no doubt in my mind that the tax system is horribly broken, very wrong, and totally inequitable...BUT: it is NOT the solution to the problem. Show me the tax rate that will balance the budget and pay down the idiotic debt in one lifetime and I will show you the tax rate the NOBODY can ever pay. The measly 15 or so Tn$ of debt pales by comparison with the HUNDRED++ Tn$ of unfunded liabilities from future entitlements. Until spending is corrected (and IMHO deficit financing for ANY government is made constitutionally impossible) the whole mess is going nowhere but down the drain.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by cannuck View Post
    There is no doubt in my mind that the tax system is horribly broken, very wrong, and totally inequitable...BUT: it is NOT the solution to the problem. Show me the tax rate that will balance the budget and pay down the idiotic debt in one lifetime and I will show you the tax rate the NOBODY can ever pay. The measly 15 or so Tn$ of debt pales by comparison with the HUNDRED++ Tn$ of unfunded liabilities from future entitlements. Until spending is corrected (and IMHO deficit financing for ANY government is made constitutionally impossible) the whole mess is going nowhere but down the drain.
    It took 30 years of too much spending, especially on the military/industrial complex and optional wars, together with taxing the wealthy too little. It will take the reverse to address the problem. To address the growing cost of entitlements we will have to do what Simpson-Bowles proposed for SS: change the COLA rate, increase retirement age over the next ten years and increase, and increase the cap. That makes SS solvent for the long term. To cut health care costs, we will have to upgrade to UHC as every other industrialized nation has had to do to reduce costs.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Of course you do! Anything that benefits the wealthy and hurts the middle class, you are for!
    what hurts the middle class is government dependency and being told that the rich have a duty to provide for the middle class. the middle class is not burdened with paying for the government services used by the wealthy so your stupid rant is just that-stupid



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