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  • No. There's comes a point in wealthiness where it just doesn't even matter anymore.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Of course the higher taxes will "make a dent"....every little bit helps....It angers me that Romney's, or any wealthy man's, real tax percentage was 13%, while mine at one tenth the income was 11%...
    Fairness over greed.
    The Bush tax cuts should never have been allowed.
    I do agree that spending is out of hand...this applies to both private and public sectors, in a great many areas.
    Salaries to "bosses" - way out of hand...
    Truth over propaganda.
    After you paid the 11% how much should you be taxed again if you invest that same money to live off of?

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    After you paid the 11% how much should you be taxed again if you invest that same money to live off of?
    If Mr. Earthworm would forgive me butting in on his reply: IMHO that should depend on HOW you invest your money. If it is creating wealth (adding value to a resource or delivering a service needed to do so) why should it be taxed at all? However, if it is from a purely speculative gain (be it in real estate or market speculation) it should be hit very hard indeed (BTW: do you want to guess where the prepondrence of income for Wall Street and really rich guys fits in there???)

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    ..It angers me that Romney's, or any wealthy man's, real tax percentage was 13%, while mine at one tenth the income was 11%...
    Fairness over greed.
    this is the mindset I don't understand. you admit they pay a higher % and high actual dollar amount and yet you still bitch about it not being fair.

    leads me to believe "you guys" don't give a **** about "fair" and you just want to punish the rich because they have more than you do.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    And here I thought by the very nature of percentages, the rich WERE paying more than everyone else. Not only is their tax rate typically higher, 20-35% of a million is substantially higher than 0% of $30k. In my opinion, unless you're paying more than the rich are, in either percentage or net value, it's rather hypocritical to say they're not paying "enough". New taxes are always great unless you're the one who has to pay for it, right?
    You're not figuring in the fact that more and more of the wealth is concentrated into a smaller and smaller group of people who are in positions of power that they've been using to manipulate everything to be this way (no-bid government contracts, lobbying for regulation that drives the small guy out, etc.), so what do they expect? Our system of capitalistic society wasn't designed to be so lopsided, and is destined to fail if it continues in the same direction. "Hypocritical"? We should be so lucky.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    How does this translate into you deserve their money or property? It's theirs not yours.

    See my post #744

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by sKiTzo View Post
    You're not figuring in the fact that more and more of the wealth is concentrated into a smaller and smaller group of people who are in positions of power that they've been using to manipulate everything to be this way (no-bid government contracts, lobbying for regulation that drives the small guy out, etc.), so what do they expect? Our system of capitalistic society wasn't designed to be so lopsided, and is destined to fail if it continues in the same direction. "Hypocritical"? We should be so lucky.
    Everything you've pointed out has come from corrupt politicians allowing themselves to be bought. Your solution is to give these corrupt politicians more power and more money. Mine is to reduce their power and scope.

    - What percentage of rich people (Let's say net worth over 2 million dollars) actually manipulates the government and the economy? A surprisingly small percentage. Most rich people aren't the monopoly man.
    - What percentage of politicians allow campaign contributions and lobbyists to influence their votes? Almost all of them.

    You really can't see who's the problem here?
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    You would have to cut it by about a third and that's just to break even today, and depending on how you would change social security or medicare they would have to be cut again in the future to not go over cost.

    What would you cut to get us below our current revenue levels?
    MILITARY AND FOREIGN AID is what I would cut. We have no business providing aid to ANYbody with money we do not have. I can't believe Obama recently signed a billion dollar "gift" package to the Egyptians that include a squadron of fighter jets. He should be impeached for that but noone says sht.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Whats really going on is that the government is deliberately putting us further into debt and are conning retarded idiots into thinking we just need to tax the **** out of the rich to solve our debt instead of drastically cutting spending.
    Of course. But who's going to believe they are deliberately doing it, even while their actions continue to prove it? Even worse, who's going to believe the reason why they want to deliberately buckle the financial system? I'm not even sure if I believe it but everything they do shows this to be the case.





















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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    A) A person making 100K whose skill set is worth 100K
    B) A person making 50K whose skill set is worth 25K

    If you think person A is the greedy one, it makes you a jealous have-not. Period.

    That's our society. Instead of trying to get more for ourselves, we do nothing but bellyache about how someone else has it better. F'n whiners.
    I couldn't care less who's got what. I was talking about the billionaires who have more money than they could possibly ever spend because that's who I thought Obama was talking about when he said the whole fiscal cliff solution was being held up by a "small sliver of the very wealthiest who didn't want to pay a little more". I would think the small sliver is far beyond the 50-100k bracket..

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    I will say this.... Considering the extra-Constitution and un-Constitutional budgeting and spending model that the Government of the United States is currently using, I do not believe that ANY American curently paying income taxes should be required to pay a single penny more until two things have happened:

    1. The Budget of the United States is brought back within the Constitutionally prescribed limitations.
    2. No income group is exempted from paying income taxes.

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