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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    The rich pay a far lower percentage of their income in taxes when all taxes are figured in. That means they have less "pain" paying them too.. There is no way out of that.
    You have it good and still whine. What does that make you?
    boo hoo. they are still paying more dollars and therefore funding more of the govt. so they are paying more than their "fair share"
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Laura80L View Post
    soooooo..... are we supposed to believe that rich people don't pay the same sales tax rate? don't pay cigarette tax, dog licenses, car registration? What should we do with their astronomical excise taxes they pay for their outrageously expensive cars, homes, boats, etc.?
    yeah...apparently rich people don't buy anything, don't own property, etc
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Oh my goodness.... you're using this? Warren Buffett has a higher tax rate than his secretary! He just uses loopholes to get out of it.... It's not a tax rate issue, it's a loophole issue.

    The actual fact is that if we want to look at effective tax rates... what people actually end up paying.. the average rich person pays a higher rate than the average middle class person.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    boo hoo. they are still paying more dollars and therefore funding more of the govt. so they are paying more than their "fair share"
    "Fair" would seem to indicate a more equitable % of their income than they pay now. Fair should mean equally painful don't you think?

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Laura80L View Post
    Oh my goodness.... you're using this? Warren Buffett has a higher tax rate than his secretary! He just uses loopholes to get out of it.... It's not a tax rate issue, it's a loophole issue.

    The actual fact is that if we want to look at effective tax rates... what people actually end up paying.. the average rich person pays a higher rate than the average middle class person.

    Historical Average Federal Tax Rates for All Households
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    What you posted is only quite recent, not measured historically, and not really something that applies to what I am saying, but worth spending more time looking at.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    "Fair" would seem to indicate a more equitable % of their income than they pay now. Fair should mean equally painful don't you think?
    nope. when it comes to paying taxes to fund the govt, fair should be about the % of the govt you fund. if I pay more into the govt than you...you cannot accuse me of not paying my fair share. no matter what either of us makes

    you and I go to mickey Ds and the bill is $20. "fair" is we each pay $10, not I pay $19.50 and you pay $.50 simply because I have more money in my pocket.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    "Fair" would seem to indicate a more equitable % of their income than they pay now. Fair should mean equally painful don't you think?
    Who decides what lines should or shouldn't be painful?

    I think individual situations determine the amount of "pain" they feel when paying taxes. When I made 30K per year, my tax share wasn't nearly as painful as now that my household makes 120K per year....
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Laura80L View Post
    Who decides what lines should or shouldn't be painful?

    I think individual situations determine the amount of "pain" they feel when paying taxes. When I made 30K per year, my tax share wasn't nearly as painful as now that my household makes 120K per year....
    Yet you are paying far smaller % of you income in taxes now, when you figure them all. Why is that more painful?

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Laura80L View Post
    Who decides what lines should or shouldn't be painful?

    I think individual situations determine the amount of "pain" they feel when paying taxes. When I made 30K per year, my tax share wasn't nearly as painful as now that my household makes 120K per year....

    it's just another bedwetting, hand-wringing ploy for sympathy.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    What you posted is only quite recent, not measured historically, and not really something that applies to what I am saying, but worth spending more time looking at.
    Well I figured the only reliable and acceptable source would be straight from the gov... and they don't seem to be too current on these things... go figure.
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