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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    It happens around the world. Why should America be any different? If I thought the vast majority of people were good, hard-working people willing to save but just caught some bad luck, I'd be empathetic. However, the rampant stupidity that infests the poverty crowd makes me less inclined to do anything.
    Lets see we go to war supposedly with other countries to save their people and that's okay we can spend billions fighting wars and more billions aiding the poor of other countries but when it comes to our citizens our poor the children the elderly the working poor and those that are just plain lazy we have to place conditions on their receiving aid is that it?

    My policies would put the poor who truly wanted to work and give back off the street. However, those seeking a free ride would get shoved into the gutter to hopefully die quietly and without a scene. Welfare reform needs an overhaul like nothing else. You receive money, you also work somehow - either on your own, or some form of community service. Random, mandatory drug tests. Either birth control is required, or an understanding is put in place that if you get pregnant, your assistance is immediately and irrevocably terminated.

    I would help people who help themselves. Anyone looking to skate on another's work...they can be shot in the street, for all I care. They're a burden to real humans, and I consider them subhuman crap.
    Well, who would have ever guessed it? When you stop being insulting we can actually find things we mostly agree on, I don't believe that able bodied and minded people should be drawing government aid. Welfare should be workfare, unemployment insurance should be connected to job training. We need to provide good role models "working parents" for the next generation, we need to make sure that our policies don't just fuel another generation of children that believe that sitting around drawing a check is the way life is along with that we have to make sure that those children born into poverty and raised in poverty have at least the basic needs required to grow healthy body and mind, we have to make sure that educational opportunities are available to all.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post

    The bottom 20% is more than the top 20% because there are more poor people. Simply astounding logic in that misfiring brain dude..... and it just keeps coming.
    Can you translate that sentence into something that makes sense?
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Can you translate that sentence into something that makes sense?
    Nope. But it's your logic based on what you said elsewhere.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Tell me this much why should the people who made themselves a living and who employ people have to pay more, so that the government can redistribute to someone who has done nothing? Just because someone has more money then you doesn't mean you are poor, and just because someone has more money doesn't mean they have to pay more because you think they owe it to society.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by cado20 View Post
    Tell me this much why should the people who made themselves a living and who employ people have to pay more, so that the government can redistribute to someone who has done nothing? Just because someone has more money then you doesn't mean you are poor, and just because someone has more money doesn't mean they have to pay more because you think they owe it to society.
    Actually, they pay less over all. We're only talking about a return to pre-Bush tax cuts and a few minor adjustments. Not one single wealthy person will trade places with any poor person.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Actually, they pay less over all. We're only talking about a return to pre-Bush tax cuts and a few minor adjustments. Not one single wealthy person will trade places with any poor person.
    stop lying-they pay far more money overall

    and you try to use non progressive taxes to claim that the poor pay more overall

    on progressive taxes the rich pay far far more

    on non progressive taxes the rich pay more actual dollars

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    stop lying-they pay far more money overall

    and you try to use non progressive taxes to claim that the poor pay more overall

    on progressive taxes the rich pay far far more

    on non progressive taxes the rich pay more actual dollars
    Not over what thy paid in the past, no. And they make more in actual dollars. I'm sorry, but the whining by the wealthy is largely hollow.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Actually, they pay less over all. We're only talking about a return to pre-Bush tax cuts and a few minor adjustments. Not one single wealthy person will trade places with any poor person.
    How do you figure that they pay less over all?
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Not over what thy paid in the past, no. And they make more in actual dollars. I'm sorry, but the whining by the wealthy is largely hollow.
    its easy to claim that taxing other people who are more successful than you are is justified and that when they complain they are "whining"

    until you start paying the same amounts as those making 400K or more a year, you really have no credibility on this issue

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Laura80L View Post
    How do you figure that they pay less over all?
    they pretend that when you add up sales taxes, smokes taxes, dog licenses, car registration etc they overall rate of the poor is about the same as the rich

    in actual dollars its not even close but they ignore that

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