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  • No. There's comes a point in wealthiness where it just doesn't even matter anymore.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    sorry charlie, but this problem has been going on long before Bush became POTUS. but, hey, if it makes you feel better to keep bleating "it's all bush's fault' ...then by all means do continue
    We the electorate elect a President who is sworn to protect the people, where President Bush is not totally responsible for the economic mess we are in he should have been able to warn the people what was going on instead he was oblivious or just did not care.

    Any one that thinks we are going to "ever" recover the standard of living we enjoyed is living in a dream land. Even if we recover the lost jobs the wages of the american worker are going to be much less.

    So it's not all President Bushes fault but he was supposed to be steering the ship when it started taking water

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    Your are right ignorance is no excuse The "rich" do provide for their selves by stealing from the poor, how? By buying elected officials who pass laws that protect them. So I hope you are not shedding to many tears for them.
    I would LOVE to hear how corporations are "stealing from the poor".

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    So it's not all President Bushes fault but he was supposed to be steering the ship when it started taking water
    But, it started leaking from the hole that Clinton drilled in it. Maybe Monica should have warned us. Could have sent out smoke signals with Bill's cigars.

    Seriously, though: Bush was neither ignorant of nor careless about de-regulation. He seemed quite anxious to let the laissez-faire model of bank regulation run to its logical conclusion. Stupid is an adjective that comes to mind.
    Last edited by cannuck; 01-07-13 at 08:02 PM.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by cannuck View Post
    But, let's do remember that the kickoff to this round of truly irresponsible de-regulation was the repeal of Glass-Steagall by Clinton. Further, we witnessed your favourite miracle working saviour show up on camera even before being sworn in with the same economic advisory team the Goldman Sucks ran BushII with. Obama has had 5 years to actually DO something, but all we have seen is more Reagan-size tax and spend idiocy - not to mention the Wall Street bailouts of rewarding his masters for their treachery and incompetence - that has run the debt of the nation through the roof.
    Glass-Steagall was amended by 3 republicans Gramm–Leach–Bliley, President Clinton did sign the amended act into law, remember that the amended law had to be voted on and passed by the senate and congress before arriving on the president's desk, so there are a lot of hands stirring the pot. President Obama and or no other President will ever be able to put the economic humpdy dumpty back to together again not in 5 years not in 10 years we have entered a period of a global economy wages will have to come down to a point of where we can compete with the 2.8 billion additional workers brought into the new global work place, employment opportunities will reflect the new global work force.

    Heck, if I was a RRR strategist, I would WANT the PCLL to put their sacrificial lamb back in office to take the fall. IMHO, that is why they ran such totally inappropriate candidates for the last two elections (I mean, have you forgotten Sarah already?????)
    I agree with you the conservative party did not want to be in the oval office, they preferred to be on the outside where they could hold up or prevent any efforts being made towards recovery.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I would LOVE to hear how corporations are "stealing from the poor".
    I did not say corporationsyou did. But one perfect example would be Wall Street and the housing bubble. Not only did they manage the banks and insurance companies but after the economy went into free fall they collected bonuses. Where did the money come from? Before you answer I will give you a clue the rich got richer and the poor got poorer

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    I did not say corporationsyou did. But one perfect example would be Wall Street and the housing bubble. Not only did they manage the banks and insurance companies but after the economy went into free fall they collected bonuses. Where did the money come from? Before you answer I will give you a clue the rich got richer and the poor got poorer
    The housing bubble happened because stupid Americans were going to stupid banks and getting stupid loans.

    Joe and Jane make 40K a year between them and go to the bank for a homeowner loan. The banks keep throwing around these great rates (sub-primes) to entice Joe and Jane into taking a loan. Joe and Jane want a $750K house so they apply for a loan, which the bank supplies, and they give them their down payment of $10K.

    Okay...so we have a couple making way too low wages going to a bank offering a way too low interest rate for a home that is way too high out of their price range with way too little equity/downpayment. Yeah, I can see how you'd want to blame EVERYONE ELSE for it.

    Tell me - do you have even an inkling of financial education, or is this just a bunch of butthurt socialist whining about how you have nothing and they have everything?

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post


    So it's not all President Bushes fault but he was supposed to be steering the ship when it started taking water
    and Obama should have started the bilge pumps instead of steering towards the rocks...plenty of blame to go around
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    The housing bubble happened because stupid Americans were going to stupid banks and getting stupid loans.

    Joe and Jane make 40K a year between them and go to the bank for a homeowner loan. The banks keep throwing around these great rates (sub-primes) to entice Joe and Jane into taking a loan. Joe and Jane want a $750K house so they apply for a loan, which the bank supplies, and they give them their down payment of $10K.

    Okay...so we have a couple making way too low wages going to a bank offering a way too low interest rate for a home that is way too high out of their price range with way too little equity/downpayment. Yeah, I can see how you'd want to blame EVERYONE ELSE for it.

    Tell me - do you have even an inkling of financial education, or is this just a bunch of butthurt socialist whining about how you have nothing and they have everything?
    You asked me how corporations steal from the poor I told you and then you reverted to your name calling. So you think that it is okay for the rich to steal from the poor, your opinion and your juvenile name calling says a lot about you.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    and Obama should have started the bilge pumps instead of steering towards the rocks...plenty of blame to go around
    It's easy to say should of and leave it at that, what is it that President Obama should have done that he did not do?

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    Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Funny thing, as more and more millions of people, that used to be middle class are now living in poverty, were not feeling their lot was improving under trickle down economics and deregulation. Pain has a way of sharpening the senses.
    Meanwhile all those rich liberals really really really really really really wish someone would force them to help a brotha out, because you know....they really really really really really really really care....

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