View Poll Results: Is it unreasonable to pay a little more?

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  • Yes. I'm a greedy bastard!! I need MORE!!!

    28 28.87%
  • No. There's comes a point in wealthiness where it just doesn't even matter anymore.

    61 62.89%
  • I'm not sure.

    8 8.25%
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Fortunately, the majority of Americans, unlike you, understand that FIT makes up less than half of federal taxes.
    Feel free to make us a graph showing all taxes included. Otherwise you are doing nothing other than spouting opinion.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    If you want to go after Wall Street and kick them to the curb, you're going to see nearly $20T in retirement accounts evaporate. Good luck trying to sell THAT to the American people.
    You speak as if trading equities and derivates on Wall Street is the only game in town. First of all, most of those retirement funds are based on wildly inflated values that simply do not reflect book value of the underlying assets at all - so they are really worthless right now. Just that the loss has not yet been realized because the Greenback lives in a la-la land where inflationary pressures are masked by the temporary phenomenon of singular hegemony.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    Meanwhile, on a global scale BILLIONS of people have moved out of absolute poverty, and BILLIONS of people are moving into the middle class.

    When the rich convinced the working class to agree to deregulation and tax cuts for the wealthy to create jobs, they expected the jobs to be in this country, and they expected the economy to improve rather than getting worse.

    People seem to forget what James Carville observed, "Its the economy, stupid!"
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Where does "...a little more" stop?
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    Feel free to make us a graph showing all taxes included. Otherwise you are doing nothing other than spouting opinion.

    There is no need for a graph. We just had an election where people got to choose whether they wanted a leader that would continue trickle down economics and deregulation, and they rejected him.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by cannuck View Post
    You speak as if trading equities and derivates on Wall Street is the only game in town. First of all, most of those retirement funds are based on wildly inflated values that simply do not reflect book value of the underlying assets at all - so they are really worthless right now. Just that the loss has not yet been realized because the Greenback lives in a la-la land where inflationary pressures are masked by the temporary phenomenon of singular hegemony.
    I wouldn't make such a statement without at least providing some evidence.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    When the rich convinced the working class to agree to deregulation and tax cuts for the wealthy to create jobs, they expected the jobs to be in this country, and they expected the economy to improve rather than getting worse.

    People seem to forget what James Carville observed, "Its the economy, stupid!"
    The economy was growing up until the financial crisis. And it is recovering slowly back to where it was, but we are still recovering faster then countries like France or Greece.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    There is no need for a graph. We just had an election where people got to choose whether they wanted a leader that would continue trickle down economics and deregulation, and they rejected him.
    Ah, so you poo poo a graph using real data, saying there is 'more data' out there, but refuse to produce the data. Instead you take the road of emotion. Go f'n figure.. you identify as a liberal, and that's what liberals do. Emotion over data.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    When the rich convinced the working class to agree to deregulation and tax cuts for the wealthy to create jobs, they expected the jobs to be in this country, and they expected the economy to improve rather than getting worse.

    People seem to forget what James Carville observed, "Its the economy, stupid!"


    the stupid apparently forgot that and voted for the clown who was clearly less qualified to improve the economy.

    why should the rich pay more other than they have less votes than the others?

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the stupid apparently forgot that and voted for the clown who was clearly less qualified to improve the economy.

    why should the rich pay more other than they have less votes than the others?
    Don't know about the stupid, but there was likely some doubt Romney was a better option.

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