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  • No. There's comes a point in wealthiness where it just doesn't even matter anymore.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    If trickle down economics and deregulation of Wall Street had worked over the last ten years, you may have been able to sell that to the American public. All it brought us was massive unemployment and more debt, and people said enough.
    Trickle down economics is working just fine on a global scale. And since economics is done on a global scale with free trade between countries, then one can say that it is working overall. However, Americans stood the most to lose in the first place, because they had the most to gain from restricting free trade. In due time, the rest of the world will be much more highly economically developed, and wages will continue to rise from that economic development, and eventually American workers will once again be more competitive. PLUS, considering there will be triple the amount of people in the middle class globally, there will be plenty of room for American based manufacturing to supply a portion of consumer goods. But that is only assuming that regulation does not stand in the way of businesses investing in our country.

    But we will never have a point in our history again where we are the sole kings of the mountain calling the shots. Instead, what you are going to see is dozens of countries across the global who all inter-depend on each other and counter balance the interests of any one nation.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    The recent planned tax increases won't even make a dent in our yearly deficit. It was never about reducing it, it's about making it seem like they're doing something by taxing the rich. Spending is bloated and needs to be cut, plain and simple.
    I agree that there is a deep need for spending cuts, but you cannot cut your way to prosperity.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    Trickle down economics is working just fine on a global scale. And since economics is done on a global scale with free trade between countries, then one can say that it is working overall. However, Americans stood the most to lose in the first place, because they had the most to gain from restricting free trade. In due time, the rest of the world will be much more highly economically developed, and wages will continue to rise from that economic development, and eventually American workers will once again be more competitive. PLUS, considering there will be triple the amount of people in the middle class globally, there will be plenty of room for American based manufacturing to supply a portion of consumer goods. But that is only assuming that regulation does not stand in the way of businesses investing in our country.

    But we will never have a point in our history again where we are the sole kings of the mountain calling the shots. Instead, what you are going to see is dozens of countries across the global who all inter-depend on each other and counter balance the interests of any one nation.
    The majority of Americans disagreed in November when they had the choice to pick a leader that wanted to continue trickle down economics.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The majority of Americans disagreed in November when they had the choice to pick a leader that wanted to continue trickle down economics.
    And the majority of Americans, those that voted to put the current president back in office, are idiots, because they can look at a chart like this and continue to say 'the rich do not pay their fair share':

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    If trickle down economics and deregulation of Wall Street had worked over the last ten years, you may have been able to sell that to the American public. All it brought us was massive unemployment and more debt, and people said enough.
    It is working very well for Wall Street indeed. They can even screw up royally and get their losses covered 100% and just keep on with the game. The people haven't said NEARLY enough, because they remain bent over the same barrel and waving for the Street to take another run at them.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The majority of Americans disagreed in November when they had the choice to pick a leader that wanted to continue trickle down economics.
    That plays into my "Americans had the most to lose" argument and doesn't counteract my "is working on a global scale" argument.

    But nice try.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by cannuck View Post
    It is working very well for Wall Street indeed. They can even screw up royally and get their losses covered 100% and just keep on with the game. The people haven't said NEARLY enough, because they remain bent over the same barrel and waving for the Street to take another run at them.
    If you want to go after Wall Street and kick them to the curb, you're going to see nearly $20T in retirement accounts evaporate. Good luck trying to sell THAT to the American people.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    And the majority of Americans, those that voted to put the current president back in office, are idiots, because they can look at a chart like this and continue to say 'the rich do not pay their fair share':

    Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?-article-2256972-16bedfb0000005dc-324_634x495-jpg
    Fortunately, the majority of Americans, unlike you, understand that FIT makes up less than half of federal taxes.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    That plays into my "Americans had the most to lose" argument and doesn't counteract my "is working on a global scale" argument.

    But nice try.

    Funny thing, as more and more millions of people, that used to be middle class are now living in poverty, were not feeling their lot was improving under trickle down economics and deregulation. Pain has a way of sharpening the senses.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Funny thing, as more and more millions of people, that used to be middle class are now living in poverty, were not feeling their lot was improving under trickle down economics and deregulation. Pain has a way of sharpening the senses.
    Meanwhile, on a global scale BILLIONS of people have moved out of absolute poverty, and BILLIONS of people are moving into the middle class.

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