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  • Yes. I'm a greedy bastard!! I need MORE!!!

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  • No. There's comes a point in wealthiness where it just doesn't even matter anymore.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    I don't need a history teacher to see the obvious outcome of the policies that led us to the place we are in right now
    Which brings me to wonder WHY you believe the solution is to implement more of the same policies?????

    Let me start out this way if a person,a business, a country can not take care of their self than how can they take care of anyone else, please explain that to me? Apparently those with economic sense did not understand or did not GAC about what global trade would do to our ability to provide GOOD job opportunities to our citizens. If global trade had been brought in with an eye to the future the impact that it would have had would have been less severe. A global economy is coming for the good or the bad but it did not have to come as fast as it did. We could have protected some businesses while allowing some to go to other economies. The transition could have been regulated.
    The "Global Economy" has been there for several centuries. The US just didn't understand that very well when THE REST OF THE WORLD opened up and your leadership did not have the vision to look outside of its own borders. Trying to "regulate" things to "protect" yourself from the outside world is exactly what you would NOT want to do. Instead, you needed to "have your crap together" with respect to INTERNAL structure. In other words, you had to do exactly what you proposed to avoid - be competitive.

    Every one wants to make this a pissing contest about taxes, when what we really need is revenue, revenue produced by jobs that stimulate our economy not the economy of foreign competition.
    Which is precisely why I wrote what I did about HOW to tax to make that happen. BUT: it is about a lot more than revenue. It is about living within your means.



    We all need to quit pointing the finger of blame and look at how we are going to survive as a country, you can come up with all of the rhetoric you want to but the truth is our country is not and may never recover economically because of PPM and some short sighted rush to a global economy
    The US will NEVER return to its relative status of the post-war decades because it did so when the rest of the world was lagging far behind. That is no longer the case, and hopefully never will be again. However, instead of learning to compete with those growing economies, you are suggesting (and the US is doing) exactly the opposite and trying to figure out how to hide from the challenges that you MUST meet to even maintain the shambles of an economy that you still have. THAT will not happen until everyone wakes up and realizes that you need to employ capital productively instead of following the idiotic idea that everyone can just live off of pure speculation (everyone's favourite "the Market").

    In short, people have to get off their fat arse and actually PRODUCE something. You can't regulate and protect what is not even happening.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by cannuck View Post
    Without having to be quite so obvious, I expected the message was that the absolutes of self reliance and independence of partisan dogma are not attainable. Reality lies somewhere in between.
    Is that right? And who made you the gatekeeper of reality?

    Further is that all of that blather is just tilting at windmills. YOU ARE BROKE and have to figure out how to live within your means instead of worrying about the details.
    And who is arguing that?

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Clinton rode one of, if not THE largest economic bubble this country has ever seen. He raised the capital gains tax during unprecedented stock market growth. What he did was profitable, beneficial, and stupid. If you do that under normal times, you'd hurt more than you'd help. In essence, he got lucky.

    The fastest way to promote job growth in America is for workers to realize the inherent shift in today's American economy and adjust for it. Don't sit back and do nothing while you wait for an obsolete job that's gone forever to get back to you. Go out and gain some marketable skills and stop relying on glorified grunt work to put beans on your table. I mean, I'm sorry if you want to be some uneducated monkey punching a clock for the rest of your life, but those people will have to learn to deal. There are jobs out there that employers cannot fill because nobody is qualified to do them.
    There sure are some understanding people out there, take you and your ilk for instance, can you do any of that glorified grunt workyou refer to? Not could you but can you? Uneducated monkey? is that how you refer to other human beings? Does that make it easy for you to not give a crap about other human beings? How about the children brought into this world by glorified grunts and uneducated monkeys what would you do with them. This is what I think if the playing field was leveled and those who through no choice of their own were born to glorified grunts and uneducated monkeys would be working and those who feel so high and mighty might be serving at MacDonald's

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    That's incorrect.
    What IS correct is that Michael Rubin played Clinton and his Administration like a well worn fiddle and trashed not only Glass-Steagal, but ANY semblance of having Wall Street behave in an ethical and responsible manner. You can mark you calendar as the day the US economy was ruined - again. A performance, I might add, that has been repeated by EVERY subsequent Administration.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    There sure are some understanding people out there, take you and your ilk for instance, can you do any of that glorified grunt workyou refer to? Not could you but can you? Uneducated monkey? is that how you refer to other human beings? Does that make it easy for you to not give a crap about other human beings? How about the children brought into this world by glorified grunts and uneducated monkeys what would you do with them. This is what I think if the playing field was leveled and those who through no choice of their own were born to glorified grunts and uneducated monkeys would be working and those who feel so high and mighty might be serving at MacDonald's
    Hey, don't be pissed that you essentially were carried around at an inefficient wage and business got smart enough to give your job to someone making 37 cents an hour.

    Long ago, you could buy a Betamax VCR for a thousand dollars. You wanna do that too? Get with the times, kid.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Is that right? And who made you the gatekeeper of reality?
    I don't need to be the "gatekeeper" to be able to observe something, do I?

    BTW: I should have been MORE observant and noticed that you list yourself as Libertarian. I mistakenly just assumed you to be part of the Uniparty. My profound apoligies for that.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Hey, don't be pissed that you essentially were carried around at an inefficient wage and business got smart enough to give your job to someone making 37 cents an hour.
    The difference between your attitude and mine is that I believe we are no stronger then our weakest link and you don't give a siit about anyone but yourself, you live in some fantasy land where you think that nothing can touch you, your not only really short sighted but your disrespectful to others. I was fortunate to be born into a situation that gave me the opportunities to be as good as I could be. HAHA you must be clairvoyant my first real job at the age of 14 paid 37 cents per hour but when you multiply that times 48 part time hours it paid for my extras. I worked doing physical labor, skilled labor and for the 28 years managed a large maintenance department. I did not have the benefit of a silver spoon, daddy didn't give me a pass just food, clothing, shelter and a good work ethic. Not every child had the benefits I had, I was lucky in the birth pool.

    Long ago, you could buy a Betamax VCR for a thousand dollars. You wanna do that too? Get with the times, kid.
    I don't have to get with the times I can see them, I don't have to worry about mine but I know that their is a chain in the link that connects all of us and when that chain is stressed we will all suffer

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    The difference between your attitude and mine is that I believe we are no stronger then our weakest link and you don't give a siit about anyone but yourself, you live in some fantasy land where you think that nothing can touch you, your not only really short sighted but your disrespectful to others. I was fortunate to be born into a situation that gave me the opportunities to be as good as I could be. HAHA you must be clairvoyant my first real job at the age of 14 paid 37 cents per hour but when you multiply that times 48 part time hours it paid for my extras. I worked doing physical labor, skilled labor and for the 28 years managed a large maintenance department. I did not have the benefit of a silver spoon, daddy didn't give me a pass just food, clothing, shelter and a good work ethic. Not every child had the benefits I had, I was lucky in the birth pool.



    I don't have to get with the times I can see them, I don't have to worry about mine but I know that their is a chain in the link that connects all of us and when that chain is stressed we will all suffer
    It's quite simple, really. If you do the work of a pack mule, expect a pack mule's pay. This country was ruined by unions protecting people who could eek through high school and settle into a 60K+ job putting peg A into hole B.

    Now that you have to be competitive and mentally useful to earn a wage, the cretins can't handle it. They want their cake and eat it too. They long for the days when they could moron around and perform mouth-breather work for an unsustainable wage.

    I'm not all that good at violin, but if you want, I can attempt to play it for you and your plight.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    It's quite simple, really. If you do the work of a pack mule, expect a pack mule's pay. This country was ruined by unions protecting people who could eek through high school and settle into a 60K+ job putting peg A into hole B.

    Now that you have to be competitive and mentally useful to earn a wage, the cretins can't handle it. They want their cake and eat it too. They long for the days when they could moron around and perform mouth-breather work for an unsustainable wage.

    I'm not all that good at violin, but if you want, I can attempt to play it for you and your plight.
    It's apparent you can not or do not read and that you have no idea of what you are talking about. You have no solutions and need to tear down others in order to feel good about yourself. Good luck

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    How about the Obama campaign video with the fictional woman--I forget here name--that highlighted how the state was there for her every step of the way through her entire life. You are either self-reliant or you are dependent upon others. The left wants people dependent upon them so that they can count on their votes. Independent people are the only threat to the omnipresent state.
    It is never either or. Most on your side missed the point. The person was self reliant, but also got some help. That's true of all of us. No man is an island. Things we have done collectively benefit all. Here, in this country, we are the state and hold the power to overthrow ten government peacefully any election cycle we choose to. For some the problem for them is that they were unable to get enough people to share their views. It happens to all sides from time to time.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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