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  • No. There's comes a point in wealthiness where it just doesn't even matter anymore.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Nope, I also don't think it's unreasonable to require the poorest to work a little more and receive a little less government aid.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Yes I agree we need serious cuts, and we need better governance over the money the government does have, but I think new revenue is also as must as well.

    Nobody seriously wants to cut government down to the level where no new revenue would be required to reduce the deficit, not even Republicans, so lets stop pretending that's a feasible outcome or a real solution.
    When the requested 'new revenue' is going to new spending, and there are no REAL cuts in spending, no real working to get things balanced, screw every single one of them in DC, they don't need a dime more until they can come up with REAL cuts, and put them into action. We've been lied to about cuts in the past that never materialized. Make real cuts first, put them in place to show they are serious about fixing things, then we can talk about new revenues.

    Hell, if they just cut there spending and worked on reducing their intrusion into the free market, they'd get a revenue increase because there's a good chance millions and millions of people that are out of work might get back into the workforce as things improve.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    A) A person making 100K whose skill set is worth 100K
    B) A person making 50K whose skill set is worth 25K

    If you think person A is the greedy one, it makes you a jealous have-not. Period.

    That's our society. Instead of trying to get more for ourselves, we do nothing but bellyache about how someone else has it better. F'n whiners.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    When the requested 'new revenue' is going to new spending, and there are no REAL cuts in spending, no real working to get things balanced, screw every single one of them in DC, they don't need a dime more until they can come up with REAL cuts, and put them into action. We've been lied to about cuts in the past that never materialized. Make real cuts first, put them in place to show they are serious about fixing things, then we can talk about new revenues.

    Hell, if they just cut there spending and worked on reducing their intrusion into the free market, they'd get a revenue increase because there's a good chance millions and millions of people that are out of work might get back into the workforce as things improve.
    I totally agree we need spending cuts, and that the folks in DC aren't doing enough of that at all. But you may be in for a rude surprise, a huge amount of jobs are dependent on government spending

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    I totally agree we need spending cuts, and that the folks in DC aren't doing enough of that at all. But you may be in for a rude surprise, a huge amount of jobs are dependent on government spending
    And they shouldn't be. That makes a false economy that is not sustainable.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    You would have to cut it by about a third and that's just to break even today, and depending on how you would change social security or medicare they would have to be cut again in the future to not go over cost.

    What would you cut to get us below our current revenue levels?
    Although your question wasn't directed at me I'll answer anyway.

    Military spending. In absolute terms we spend more on our military than than anyone else - 711 billion in 2012. That's actually more than twice what the #2 through 5 countries combines and about 41% of military spending worldwide. In terms of percentage o GDP we're #2 at 4.7% - the Saudi's are #1. We don't need nor can we afford such a huge military.

    (stats courtesy of wikipedia)

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    Although your question wasn't directed at me I'll answer anyway.

    Military spending. In absolute terms we spend more on our military than than anyone else - 711 billion in 2012. That's actually more than twice what the #2 through 5 countries combines and about 41% of military spending worldwide. In terms of percentage o GDP we're #2 at 4.7% - the Saudi's are #1. We don't need nor can we afford such a huge military.

    (stats courtesy of wikipedia)
    I agree with libertarians on this. Any debt reduction would have to include cuts in military spending. We need to get back to a defensive force to help get our fiscal house in order.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    everyone needs to pay more, and we need to do a lot less on the global scale and a lot more on the local scale. put simply, the Bush model did not work long term.
    sorry.. "everyone paying more" is not on the table.. it never was.

    if you are successful, well, I guess you get to join us in helping out ....if not, just ignore the problems, they are none of your concern.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    sorry.. "everyone paying more" is not on the table.. it never was.

    if you are successful, well, I guess you get to join us in helping out ....if not, just ignore the problems, they are none of your concern.
    technically, it was. going over the fiscal cliff would have had that effect, though the instant implementation would have been idiotic.

    put simply, we need to raise everyone's taxes and cut spending, and we need to phase in the changes properly.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    sorry.. "everyone paying more" is not on the table.. it never was.

    if you are successful, well, I guess you get to join us in helping out ....if not, just ignore the problems, they are none of your concern.
    What? Is that not exactly what the current law, aka "fiscal cliff" bill, specifies along with real spending cuts, aka sequestration?
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