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  • No. There's comes a point in wealthiness where it just doesn't even matter anymore.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Evenstar View Post
    Good. You see that. There are those in government who want people dependent, and have set up the current system to that end.
    That is absolute bs.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That is absolute bs.
    that you dispute what she says is further proof she is correct. For you to claim that not a single person in government wants people to be dependent on the government is a plain and shining lie

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that you dispute what she says is further proof she is correct. For you to claim that not a single person in government wants people to be dependent on the government is a plain and shining lie
    Only someone wanting to divert the issue suggest finding one single person makes the argument worthy. There has to be enough to make it a valid concern not to be bs.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    why do the poor get poorer? too much sloth? too much sucking on the public tit. No one really demonizes those who are poor because they cannot help it. we demonize people who are poor because they do stupid stuff like get knocked up in HS, drop out of HS, do drugs or get felony records.

    and we demonize greedy power hunger assholes in office who pretend they care for the poor in order to justify more government (that they use to get wealthy off of)
    We need jobs lots of them. We have an economy now where the money flow is going to the top and to foreign countries and there is not much of it fueling our economy. People who don't have it to invest are going to find living hard. The cost of all life essential needs continues to rise while wages fall.At this point I don't really see an answer. It takes two people working at minimum wage to earn what one person needs to make just to survive.

    This has been coming since Nixon and Kissinger negotiated a trade deal with China, lets be realistic you can not flood the work force with another 3.5 billion plus workers and think it won't have a dramatic effect on wages and living standards. Taxes alone are not the answer we need jobs decent paying jobs.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Only someone wanting to divert the issue suggest finding one single person makes the argument worthy. There has to be enough to make it a valid concern not to be bs.
    Find me a single historical example of a government that doesn't end up tyrannical before its collapse. They all end the same way as far as I know. The only inevitable fact when dealing with government is that it always gets bigger and more corrupt. Special interests.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The best way to reduce the deficit is with a strong economy. The economy grows best when we have a strong middle class. If the GOP had stuck with their refusal to extend the middle class tax cuts to protect the tax cuts for the wealthy, we risked another recession.
    You have it completely backwards. A strong middle class, is the byproduct of economic growth. Sustained full employment and robust economic growth causes wages to rise, which move people who used to be in the "lower class" into the middle class. This isn't the result of government, this is the result of industry. Government plays a role in education, infrastructure, in specific cases capital investment, etc., but these should ideally be tailored to what the economy needs, not what the "middle class needs." You cannot just make rules that say to protect the middle class and expect it to be fine and dandy. The middle class has to be built by the economy, and in some cases rebuilt when certain industries become obsolete and new industries must emerge. The middle class on a global scale is booming, it is expected to double by 2020, and nearly triple by 2030, and that will have enormous dividends for our sectors as wages start to rise in those countries and our workers become more competitive.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Evenstar View Post
    Find me a single historical example of a government that doesn't end up tyrannical before its collapse. They all end the same way as far as I know. The only inevitable fact when dealing with government is that it always gets bigger and more corrupt. Special interests.
    Which has little to do with what you said. I don't pretend there are not problems, but there's always been corruption. With every government, the trick is to stay vigilant, to remember there is a function and purpose, a reason why people form governments.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    The funny thing is that more progressive taxes are good for all of us. The rich don't miss the money and when it gets spent by the Govt. it increases growth and GDP. A strong growing economy is good for all income levels. Once the balance is corrected we can look forward to a new growth period when wages go up for all and not just the few at the top. Isn't that what everyone should want?
    Of course, but instead of trying to level the playing field so that we are all playing by the same rules, you want to give the corrupt politicians who have secured the mega rich's power MORE power. Increasing taxes is an attempt to cover up the symptoms, instead of the root problem.
    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    I've got to say that it is shadenfreudalicious to see the rich and famous fucquewads on the coast suffering from the fires.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    We need jobs lots of them. We have an economy now where the money flow is going to the top and to foreign countries and there is not much of it fueling our economy. People who don't have it to invest are going to find living hard. The cost of all life essential needs continues to rise while wages fall.At this point I don't really see an answer. It takes two people working at minimum wage to earn what one person needs to make just to survive.

    This has been coming since Nixon and Kissinger negotiated a trade deal with China, lets be realistic you can not flood the work force with another 3.5 billion plus workers and think it won't have a dramatic effect on wages and living standards. Taxes alone are not the answer we need jobs decent paying jobs.

    then vote against the democratic party since it makes the cost of business too high

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    then vote against the democratic party since it makes the cost of business too high
    COC guess what that means? Does history back your claim up? What were the taxes under the Clinton Presidency? It does not matter who the President is very few politicians would back up protectionism. That means there will be a long period of time before manufacturers ever freely come back to the USA. The fastest way to promote job growth would be for Americans to realize that the government will not impose strict enough import tariffs on foreign goods, so buying products and using services that are made in the USA will promote job growth which will increase revenues without the need to raise taxes. Go back to the Clinton tax rates across the board the poor will still not have to pay and revenues will increase.

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