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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Kinda like the peacetime profiteers, who make money of off government spending much in the same fashion. Only difference, is that the peacetime profiteers don't contribute jack**** to the country.

    BTW, where do you work?
    In Iowa for a Community College.

    However, nothing you said above brings us to socialism.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    In Iowa for a Community College.

    However, nothing you said above brings us to socialism.
    As I was saying...
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    As I was saying...
    . . . Nothing of consequence?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    So much for creep.

    CP, this just isn't going to fly in context of the conversation. We were socialist then nor now.
    If you take three steps forward and then two back, you have still ratcheted net forward. Turtle is correct in his description of the legal changes of the era.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    I couldn't answer the poll. The answer is YES. Why? It is their ****ing duty.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    As I was saying...
    Apparently not much...
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    Usually a gag for wise mouthed insulting little girls. Then some good nylon rope so I can tie them up, toss them in the trunk of my car and forget about them.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    If you take three steps forward and then two back, you have still ratcheted net forward. Turtle is correct in his description of the legal changes of the era.
    Like most, he overstates, describes a creep that really misses the issue. It is a long standing, unoriginal scare tactic that is largely laughable today and with the realities of the world we live in.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    The approach is ALL wrong and that's why this gets so much blowback. This isn't a question of reasonable or unreasonable, right or wrong. It becomes a question of necessity and SHARED responsibility.

    This tax season every poor and middle income individual will do the exact same thing every rich person will do. they will find every opportunity to keep what they have earned and in the case of the poor and lower middle income, will even claim the earned income credit to get free money they did not pay. Everyone wants to keep what they have earned. But because the rich have earned so much more, there is this continued movement to vilify the successful. And so it starts. instead of everyone accepting there MUST be cuts and everyone accepting their will have to be some pain, it becomes a finger pointing session. As soon as you tell successful wealthy individuals they haven't earned their wealth, don't deserve their wealth, aren't entitled to keep as much of their wealth as possible and aren't doing their 'fair share' the wealthy individuals immediate response is a nice healthy dose of **** you. Instead of acknowledging and even expressing a little appreciating for the wealthy carrying so much more of the tax burden (at every level...not just income, but property taxes, sales taxes, etc) the poor accuse the rich of stealing from them (a laughable claim) and the politicians pander to the poor by making the rich out to be villains (oh...but not ALL the rich...THOSE guys...you know...NOT the rich democrats, NOT the rich musicians, the rich actors, etc...the OTHER rich guys).

    Its not 'reasonable'. In addition to cuts, it will be NECESSARY. But not right and not reasonable.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    how is giving more handouts to "the poor" going to create a strong middle class? experience over the past 60 years has shown that all it does is create an ever increasing population dependent on the govt.
    No, giving handouts to the poor doesn't create a strong middle class. What it does is allows American citizens to try and find work instead of starving to death.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by waas View Post
    No, giving handouts to the poor doesn't create a strong middle class. What it does is allows American citizens to try and find work instead of starving to death.
    Again...how does continuing to give handouts allow people to try to find work? all it does is eliminate the incentive to do so, since you have removed the fear of starving to death.
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