View Poll Results: Is it unreasonable to pay a little more?

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  • Yes. I'm a greedy bastard!! I need MORE!!!

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  • No. There's comes a point in wealthiness where it just doesn't even matter anymore.

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  • I'm not sure.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I don't know of anyone that supports your strawman there!


    You do now. I do not want the government to have more money.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Totally agree, but there's two sides to this equation. We need new sources of revenue and spending cuts at the same time.
    Revenue responds to growth. If you want to increase revenue, increase growth. It won't come from slapping higher rates on folks.



    We tried that. Wild variations in rates do not produce corresponding variations in revenue.

    The government could start selling stuff.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    You do now. I do not want the government to have more money.
    anytime some wealth redistributionist starts whining that the rich need to pay more (usually defined as anyone making more than the redistributionist in question) the first question is WHY does the government deserve even another penny?

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Used? people got rich. But, no, he did not take over the means of production. Sorry.
    Boo, sit up straight in your chair, raise your right hand to eye level hold your fingers together perfectly do not move any muscle other than the ones I direct you to (explicitly or implicitly - for example the heart should continue beating), sit there for 15 seconds in that position and then rapidly bring your hand up and down so that you pat the top of your head with your palm.


    Oh, and if you don't do this I will have you thrown in prison.

    Don't worry. I'm not "taking over" your actions. I'm just directing them. Totally different, right?

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    I can only assume if you don't know anything when you go to bed, ya' ain't likely to know anything when ya' wakes up. I don't recollect who it was said that. Now speakin' at the empty chair, I bought my property when I was making money and I'm now retired. My property taxes, just by themselves area a little over 20% of my income. I spend $2500/yr. on gasoline, $2500/yr on utilities (gas and electric), $300/yr. on car registrations, $400/yr on inspections and the bullsheet repairs to get through those inspections, sales tax on everything and you can tell the empty chair representing the vapid sentient entity to do the math and then apologize and admit that ones cerebellum was deeply impacted when the rash and hubris statement was spewed. Proportionately, as I stated, I and many others in my income bracket, pay 30% to taxes.
    Mere words. Not proof of anything. I'm not sure your lean is correct.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    This might be one of the most incorrect economic statements that I've ever read. The stock market is not a zero sum game.

    Let's imagine a scenario for an instant. You want to form a company, you'll call it "Cannuck's High Quality Tables". You how ever don't have the start up resources for all the woodworking equipment you need, so you go to the market to look for investors. Mr. Romney comes along and says "I will give you $2 million dollars for a 40% stake in your company". (Kind of like the show 'Shark Tank', if you've ever seen it) Considering you'll never even get the business off the ground without him, you think that's a great deal, so you agree. Romney is taking a risk on you, he's risking $2 million on you, an investment that may or may not come to fruition.

    Your then go on to make the world's finest quality tables and sell each for thousands, and people far and wide travel to spend their money on your tables. You make massive profits, which you pay 40% to your investor, Romney, who helped get your business off the ground. Now, explain to me again where the victim is in this situation.

    You've so clearly deemed Romney a leach, I want to know how he's boning you in this situation, and who's being robbed?
    You example is how investment is supposed to work. It should be rather obvious that the current system no longer fits this model.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so tell me-could Obamacare have happened without the jurisprudential actions of the New Deal occurring?
    Would the problems with our system have never been there? You see, it is the problems that generate reform and the ideology.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Boo, sit up straight in your chair, raise your right hand to eye level hold your fingers together perfectly do not move any muscle other than the ones I direct you to (explicitly or implicitly - for example the heart should continue beating), sit there for 15 seconds in that position and then rapidly bring your hand up and down so that you pat the top of your head with your palm.


    Oh, and if you don't do this I will have you thrown in prison.

    Don't worry. I'm not "taking over" your actions. I'm just directing them. Totally different, right?
    I know you think that was a profound comparison, but it wasn't. Business leap in with both feet and said please makes me rich.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Would you not agree, Turtle, that greed affects all, that greed knows no boundaries, no political parties ?
    I must admit that I can be greedy, that in the past, I have been, IMO.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    I just can't wrap my head around how some people seem to think it is greedy to want to keep more of what you make, but it is not greedy to want the gov't to give you more of what someone else makes.
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