View Poll Results: Is it unreasonable to pay a little more?

Voters
97. You may not vote on this poll
  • Yes. I'm a greedy bastard!! I need MORE!!!

    28 28.87%
  • No. There's comes a point in wealthiness where it just doesn't even matter anymore.

    61 62.89%
  • I'm not sure.

    8 8.25%
Page 3 of 81 FirstFirst 123451353 ... LastLast
Results 21 to 30 of 809

Thread: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

  1. #21
    Sage
    Arbo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Colorado
    Last Seen
    07-12-16 @ 01:32 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    10,395
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Greed? Really? That's all the left has? Not raising taxes on those that pay the VAST MAJORITY of all the taxes the government collects, makes those that pay the VAST MAJORITY of taxes greedy?

    An utterly stupid concept right there.

    Perhaps people that believe such things should take a step back and realize that at a time when a good bit of the nation is still quite depressed, collecting more revenues for more SPENDING, and raising their own salaries, the 'greed' is centered in DC.
    "nah i think the way cons want to turn this into a political issue is funny though" - Philly Boss

  2. #22
    Sage

    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Florida
    Last Seen
    Today @ 05:42 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    23,401

    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    The recent planned tax increases won't even make a dent in our yearly deficit. It was never about reducing it, it's about making it seem like they're doing something by taxing the rich. Spending is bloated and needs to be cut, plain and simple.
    You still are denying that Govt. revenues of less than 15% of GDP are part of the problem? No Western Govt. has revenues that low. It is unsustainable

  3. #23
    Sage
    Fletch's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Mentor Ohio
    Last Seen
    Today @ 06:54 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    15,289

    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    You still are denying that Govt. revenues of less than 15% of GDP are part of the problem? No Western Govt. has revenues that low. It is unsustainable
    No Western government has taxes this low on middle class. The problem is that the middle class wants all sorts of government goodies but wants someone else to pay for them. That is not how things work. If Medicare is bankrupting the system it is because the middle class is not paying enough into it. Those who want big government should be willing to step up and pay for big government.

  4. #24
    Engineer

    RabidAlpaca's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    American in Europe
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:39 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    14,588

    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    You still are denying that Govt. revenues of less than 15% of GDP are part of the problem? No Western Govt. has revenues that low. It is unsustainable
    Actually government revenues are about 35% of GDP, and we are nearly tied with Japan, Switzerland, and Australia.

    Try again.
    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    I've got to say that it is shadenfreudalicious to see the rich and famous fucquewads on the coast suffering from the fires.

  5. #25
    Phonetic Mnemonic ©
    radcen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    Look to your right... I'm that guy.
    Last Seen
    Today @ 08:23 AM
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    33,438

    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Taking a slightly different approach than what the OP intends, but I ask, "Can you define 'more'?"

    More in percentage? It could be either reasonable or unreasonable. Manipulating percentages blurs the lines of reasonableness and fairness.

    More in dollars? Perfectly reasonable.

    Explanation: This is why I am a staunch flat-tax advocate. The percentage for everybody should be the same. Period. No exception, no deductions, no credits. Nada. The rich will end up paying more in dollars because they make more, but the collective burden will be shared relatively equally.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

  6. #26
    User
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Last Seen
    03-20-16 @ 10:47 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    72

    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    I love the way you worded the "yes" but let me help you the the "No" ............No, I am a lazy bastard and I want someone elses hard earned money

  7. #27
    Electrician
    Bob Blaylock's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    North 38°28′ West 121°26′
    Last Seen
    12-15-17 @ 03:47 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    13,745

    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    The greed is government greed, they just want more and more money to spend. Taxing the rich a little more won't hurt them but it won't help America, we need to spend less not tax more.
    Leftists and statists have a different definition of “greed” than everyone else.

    To most of us, “greed” refers to a desire to take what belongs to someone else, to be used in a manner not consistent with the wishes of he from whom it was taken. Liberalism/statism is almost entirely based on greed.

    To those on the left, however, “greed” refers to a desire to keep what one has rightfully earned.

    Most of us think a thief is greedy. Theft is a direct manifestation of greed as most understand it. Liberals are thieves who think that their victims are “greedy”, for not wanting to be stolen from.
    The five great lies of the Left Wrong:
    We can be Godless and free. • “Social justice” through forced redistribution of wealth. • Silencing religious opinions counts as “diversity”. • Freedom without moral and personal responsibility. • Civilization can survive the intentional undermining of the family.

  8. #28
    Electrician
    Bob Blaylock's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    North 38°28′ West 121°26′
    Last Seen
    12-15-17 @ 03:47 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    13,745

    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Totally agree, but there's two sides to this equation. We need new sources of revenue and spending cuts at the same time.
    No, we do not. Government consumes far too much of the nation's wealth as it is. Allowing government to consume even more of our wealth (which is what you clearly mean by “We need new sources of revenue”) is the exact opposite of a solution to our current fiscal problems. It will only make things worse.

    The only genuine solution has to begin with cutting government spending to a level below its current revenues. We need government to “live within its means”, just as you and I must.
    The five great lies of the Left Wrong:
    We can be Godless and free. • “Social justice” through forced redistribution of wealth. • Silencing religious opinions counts as “diversity”. • Freedom without moral and personal responsibility. • Civilization can survive the intentional undermining of the family.

  9. #29
    Sage
    Cephus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    CA
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 10:09 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Conservative
    Posts
    29,803

    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Totally agree, but there's two sides to this equation. We need new sources of revenue and spending cuts at the same time.
    What we really need to do is stop spending more than we bring in. Common sense, I know, but something entirely foreign to the government.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

    Blog me! YouTube me! VidMe me!

  10. #30
    Sage
    Lutherf's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Tucson, AZ
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:39 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    24,703

    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by sKiTzo View Post

    This whole "fiscal cliff" thing, IMO, is really about one thing. GREED. The same people who are pushing to raise the debt ceiling are the same ones who don't want to pay a little more, and being such an elite small sliver, are probably the same ones who have been benefitting from these overexpenditures. If you are one of the small sliver of wealthiest at the top, you make obscene amounts of money. You live vastly beyond comfortably, and anything you want, you can easily afford ten thousandfold. So what's REALLY going on?
    Great opinion but the total income of everyone who makes more than $200k is right around $2 Trillion and our federal spending alone is right about $3.5 Trillion so eve if we too all of their income we still would be about $1.5 Trillion short every year BEFORE we got to state and local spending which is another $2.4 Trillion.

    Now, maybe it's just me but if someone takes all of my income one year I'm not going to try very hard to make a buck the next year.

    Seriously, if you want to raise taxes on the "wealthy" then go ahead and do it to your hearts content but unless you cut something out of all that spending you will come up short every single year and the only thing you will have accomplished is to make absolutely everybody poor.

Page 3 of 81 FirstFirst 123451353 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •