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  • No. There's comes a point in wealthiness where it just doesn't even matter anymore.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by gmeyers1944 View Post
    I cannot give myself a raise like government can, but I can control my spending.
    True. But you can take a second job. Many of us have done that.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    If it were only so simple that the people who were wealthy got to stay that way, sorry but a high income is no guarantee of future income. No where are people talking about taxing wealth, but taxing income.

    How about the tax rate on gasoline goes down as the price goes up, how about that for fair?

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    True. But you can take a second job. Many of us have done that.
    and what good does that do you if you continue to increase (or fail to reduce) your spending? that is the problem we have with our govt. they always promise to cut spending if we will agree to higher taxes, so we do...and then the spending cuts never come and then a year or two later they are back asking for yet another increase.

    classic example: several years ago the state legislature in alabama wanted to raise the tax rates and promised to decrease spending. taxes went up and guess what the first thing they did? voted themselves a 62% pay raise.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    and what good does that do you if you continue to increase (or fail to reduce) your spending? that is the problem we have with our govt. they always promise to cut spending if we will agree to higher taxes, so we do...and then the spending cuts never come and then a year or two later they are back asking for yet another increase.
    If I take a second job and keep spending, at least I have some increase in revenue. Still, the compete approach requires both. I'm not suggesting calls for cuts in spending end. Only that we stop saying it has to be one or the other. It needs to be both.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    If I take a second job and keep spending, at least I have some increase in revenue. Still, the compete approach requires both. I'm not suggesting calls for cuts in spending end. Only that we stop saying it has to be one or the other. It needs to be both.
    Why? If you cut spending to match what you take in theres no problem. Thats how most of us live. Not working ourselves to death to pay for the government.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    If I take a second job and keep spending, at least I have some increase in revenue. Still, the compete approach requires both. I'm not suggesting calls for cuts in spending end. Only that we stop saying it has to be one or the other. It needs to be both.
    and my point is that since the govt has shown themselves to be untrustworthy when it comes to reducing spending...the cuts should come first and then the revenue increase.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain View Post
    Why? If you cut spending to match what you take in theres no problem. Thats how most of us live. Not working ourselves to death to pay for the government.
    Because you really can't cut it enough without devastating the big three. Not only will you never get the support to do that, we shouldn't. We can cut them some, but not enough to eliminate the debt with cuts alone. We need both.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    and my point is that since the govt has shown themselves to be untrustworthy when it comes to reducing spending...the cuts should come first and then the revenue increase.
    Republicans did not have to cave. We could have gone over the cliff. I argued that was a better choice. But as government will have to enact anything that happens, you're pissing in the wind with what you're demanding. Instead, recognize what needs to be done, and fight for it, and vote people in who understand this.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Republicans did not have to cave. We could have gone over the cliff. I argued that was a better choice. But as government will have to enact anything that happens, you're pissing in the wind with what you're demanding. Instead, recognize what needs to be done, and fight for it, and vote people in who understand this.
    I tried, but i was outnumbered by those who wanted to vote themselves more 'free" stuff from the gubbermint
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    If I take a second job and keep spending, at least I have some increase in revenue. Still, the compete approach requires both. I'm not suggesting calls for cuts in spending end. Only that we stop saying it has to be one or the other. It needs to be both.
    But Obama insists on "balance", meaning that for each $1 in federal spending cut, that $1 (or more) be raised by increasing federal taxes. With an annual federal deficit of $1 trillion that means $500 billion in spending cuts and $500 billion in new federal tax revenue. What are those odds? Remember that federal spending is 40% more than federal taxes now, so tax revenue must go up about 25% to balance the budget (assuming 1 to 1 spending cuts to increased taxes).
    “The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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