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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by sKiTzo View Post

    This whole "fiscal cliff" thing, IMO, is really about one thing. GREED. The same people who are pushing to raise the debt ceiling are the same ones who don't want to pay a little more, and being such an elite small sliver, are probably the same ones who have been benefitting from these overexpenditures. If you are one of the small sliver of wealthiest at the top, you make obscene amounts of money. You live vastly beyond comfortably, and anything you want, you can easily afford ten thousandfold. So what's REALLY going on?
    The greed is government greed, they just want more and more money to spend. Taxing the rich a little more won't hurt them but it won't help America, we need to spend less not tax more.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    I think demanding that the government get serious on spending issues before they go after anybody for tax increases is incredibly reasonable. This "compromise" bill is ridiculously inadequate at addressing spending and instead delays the conversation by a few months.

    Taxes are going up on everybody. ACA was already creating a tax increase for the "rich", the 2% payroll tax break is ending, several industries will see tax increases...This bill just piled on top of it. And....what did they do about spending? We're still spending at Iraq/Afghan war levels even though we're all but completely out of Iraq and decreasing our presence in Afghanistan. We're still spending at TARP levels even though it wasn't reauthorized. We're borrowing 33% of our spending, and this "compromise" bill might decrease that to 28%...maybe.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Totally agree, but there's two sides to this equation. We need new sources of revenue and spending cuts at the same time.
    It would have been nice to see the Senate and Obama accept that and take cuts seriously, instead of creating a bill that does nearly ****-all.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by sKiTzo View Post

    This whole "fiscal cliff" thing, IMO, is really about one thing. GREED. The same people who are pushing to raise the debt ceiling are the same ones who don't want to pay a little more, and being such an elite small sliver, are probably the same ones who have been benefitting from these overexpenditures. If you are one of the small sliver of wealthiest at the top, you make obscene amounts of money. You live vastly beyond comfortably, and anything you want, you can easily afford ten thousandfold. So what's REALLY going on?
    Actually, the "whole fiscal cliff thing" was a distraction. But now that Obama has gotten his tax increase, the question becomes--now what? He got his tax increase that would insure that the rich are now paying their fair share, but we are still coming up $1,000,000,000,000 short each year. So where, liberals, do we go next?

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    I perceive a difference between the hostility of those whose wealth is created (by themselves and within their own lifetimes), as opposed to those whose wealth is hereditary. Regarding the latter, I have no pity at all. They are bloated and unproductive, offering nothing to their country. As to the former, I can sympathise to a certain extent. Though I recognise the necessity of addressing the imbalance. Arguments for the 'trickle down effect' are stillborn. In practical terms, there is no visible impact for the average joe.

    In fairness, we should remind ourselves that being wealthy isn't a crime. Only those with little to nothing would describe it thus. If it is, then we make admission of Capitalism's obsolescence, and that any pursuit tailored towards personal profit is undesirable.

    That said, a fundamental redistribution may be the only means of stimulating an economic recovery, that won't take decades to achieve. So, I dunno. I'm in two minds about it, really. One thing I do reject is the good guys and bad guys perspective. It was always nonsensical. Fit only for school children, picking 'sides'. There is only self-interest and competition; those unable to compete tend to a certain belligerence.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    In some ways, it doesn't matter how much taxes are increased, if spending isn't cut, and I mean cuts effective NOW, not 10 years down the road.

    Ever notice, the government will spend whatever it has and then some, no matter how much that is? Until that's changed, and a budget actually put in place, it won't matter who gets to pay more, because it will never be enough.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    To be honest, I think it depends on your specific income. In general, I dont think everyone should be making the same amount and I think that you should keep what you worked for. However, I agree with a slight tax increase for people making over half a million dollars.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    In some ways, it doesn't matter how much taxes are increased, if spending isn't cut, and I mean cuts effective NOW, not 10 years down the road.

    Ever notice, the government will spend whatever it has and then some, no matter how much that is? Until that's changed, and a budget actually put in place, it won't matter who gets to pay more, because it will never be enough.
    It stands to reason and fairness that the tax rate on the wealthy be increase, it should NEVER have been lowered in the first place...
    One thing about government spending...as I recall, the departments are encouraged to spend all of their budget, which encourages waste..Also, I think there are automatic budget increases...this must stop...
    Greed is a problem....for this there is no solution.
    An easy one......all of the representatives and Senators must have their pay cut by 50%...then they might learn how to budget as the working man must.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    It stands to reason and fairness that the tax rate on the wealthy be increase, it should NEVER have been lowered in the first place...
    For the group that pays the most in, dollar for dollar, and uses the least of the services and programs tax revenues fund, I have to disagree.
    One thing about government spending...as I recall, the departments are encouraged to spend all of their budget, which encourages waste..Also, I think there are automatic budget increases...this must stop...
    Agreed.
    Greed is a problem....for this there is no solution.
    An easy one......all of the representatives and Senators must have their pay cut by 50%...then they might learn how to budget as the working man must.
    The greed is in the government's quarter.

    Any representative should make no more than the median income for the area they represent. Any increase should be based on the average increase of the citizen. Term limits. No lifetime benefits. No special benefits, same program that the citizens are on. All laws that are laid upon the citizen, are applicable to them to.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by sKiTzo View Post

    This whole "fiscal cliff" thing, IMO, is really about one thing. GREED. If you are one of the small sliver of wealthiest at the top, you make obscene amounts of money. You live vastly beyond comfortably, and anything you want, you can easily afford ten thousandfold. So what's REALLY going on?
    How does this translate into you deserve their money or property? It's theirs not yours.

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