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  • Yes. I'm a greedy bastard!! I need MORE!!!

    28 28.87%
  • No. There's comes a point in wealthiness where it just doesn't even matter anymore.

    61 62.89%
  • I'm not sure.

    8 8.25%
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    go back and look at your sources... they all call for addition taxes to pay for the program.... which is exactly what i said would be necessary.

    UHC might do lots of things.. debt reduction is not one of them.
    without additional taxes to cover it, UHC would add to the deficit/debt... i'm not sure why you are disputing this very simple fact.
    Of course it has to be paid for. Just like in the rest of the industrialized world. Were you expecting a free lunch? All the countries that have a single payer system have lower health care costs than we do with equal or better outcomes. When the US gets serious about debt, we will have to upgrade as all the others have done.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    How could that possibly happen? With our constant 40% federal deficits of over $1 trillion dollars/year what could go wrong? If we run short of "stimulus" funds then simply print more money and lower the interest rates to actually pay our banks to take it.
    The best way to reduce the deficit is with a strong economy. The economy grows best when we have a strong middle class. If the GOP had stuck with their refusal to extend the middle class tax cuts to protect the tax cuts for the wealthy, we risked another recession.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Not everyone agrees with the OP that the government should have more money to imprison more Americans, expand Homeland Security, make more laws against citizens, and overall make the government ever more powerful, more oppressive, allow it to be more wasteful and take away still more rights

    There may be people such as the OP's message suggests that desperately need some higher power to control every aspect of their life - and are so fearful need the government to control everything and everyone else. But not everyone is that dependant a personality nor that fearful of everything and everyone.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The best way to reduce the deficit is with a strong economy. The economy grows best when we have a strong middle class. If the GOP had stuck with their refusal to extend the middle class tax cuts to protect the tax cuts for the wealthy, we risked another recession.
    We must have a strong (or at least large) "middle class" if it is 98+% of the taxpayers.
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    We must have a strong (or at least large) "middle class" if it is 98+% of the taxpayers.
    That's what it took to save the middle class tax cuts from the GOP hostage taking.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Not everyone agrees with the OP that the government should have more money to imprison more Americans, expand Homeland Security, make more laws against citizens, and overall make the government ever more powerful, more oppressive, allow it to be more wasteful and take away still more rights
    I don't know of anyone that supports your strawman there!
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Not wanting taxes to go up 4.6% when they can easily pay for it is greed.
    Greed is not wanting to keep what is rightfully yours.

    Greed is wanting to take what is not rightfully yours.

    Yours is the position of a robber calling his victim “greedy” for not wanting to be robbed. No matter how much you want to argue otherwise, it is the robber who is greedy, and not the one being robbed.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The best way to reduce the deficit is with a strong economy. The economy grows best when we have a strong middle class. If the GOP had stuck with their refusal to extend the middle class tax cuts to protect the tax cuts for the wealthy, we risked another recession.
    And to raise taxes and spend the money on brand new programs. Yeah, that's the ticket.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Greed is not wanting to keep what is rightfully yours.

    Greed is wanting to take what is not rightfully yours.

    Yours is the position of a robber calling his victim “greedy” for not wanting to be robbed. No matter how much you want to argue otherwise, it is the robber who is greedy, and not the one being robbed.
    He's a socialist, his definition is correct for him.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I am relieved our economy will not be at risk now of going back into recession.
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