View Poll Results: Is it unreasonable to pay a little more?

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  • No. There's comes a point in wealthiness where it just doesn't even matter anymore.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    No, I'd like it if they'd get off their asses and worked to improve their own situation rather than wanting to penalize those who actually have done that.
    Yeah they got rich by sitting on their asses

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain View Post
    Yeah they got rich by sitting on their asses
    Nobody gets rich sitting on their ass. They work their asses off. They put in the time, they take the risks and they succeed on their own merits. Maybe the reason you don't understand this is because you don't live in the real world.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Nobody gets rich sitting on their ass. They work their asses off. They put in the time, they take the risks and they succeed on their own merits. Maybe the reason you don't understand this is because you don't live in the real world.
    I was being sarcastic lol.

    I think were misunderstanding eachother here somewhere

    I thought you meant the middle class works while the rich rake it in.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Is it unreasonable to ask that the poor pay anything at all?
    The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain View Post
    I was being sarcastic lol.

    I think were misunderstanding eachother here somewhere

    I thought you meant the middle class works while the rich rake it in.
    Nope, the rich, the ones who are self-made at least, have worked themselves hard to get to that point. They have earned the money they've made and now the middle-class and the poor want to arbitrarily take away the money they worked hard to earn, while many, especially the poor, refuse to work at all. There's something wrong with that.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    Is it unreasonable to ask that the poor pay anything at all?
    Nope. Absolutely no one who uses public resources should be able to do so without paying into the system.
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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    Yawn. Are you done yet?

    I'm merely pointing out that flip side of calling the rich greedy is calling you envious.

    And if I'm spewing right wing hackery, you're spewing left wing hackery.

    If you think arguing is trading labels back and forth, I can play this game all day.
    Not wanting taxes to go up 4.6% when they can easily pay for it is greed.


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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Says the illiterate person who has never had anything to offer but cheap extreme left-wing hackery rhetoric.


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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Not wanting taxes to go up 4.6% when they can easily pay for it is greed.
    And you wanting their taxes to go up instead of yours when they already account for the lion's share in revenue is envy. See what I did there? Calling it greed is not your trump card. Saying "they can afford to pay more" says nothing about whether they should pay more.

    As for the 1940-1970s, would you rather live then? Would you rather buy a car in the 1970s or a car today? Would you rather buy a phone in the 1970s, or a phone today? Would you rather be admitted to the hospital in the 1970s or today? Would you even be able to buy a computer? Would you rather be a minority in the 1970s than today? Would you feel safer working in a factory?

    Talking about the 1940s-1970s as some golden age is a bunch of bull****, considering there is not a single person who would have a higher standard of living then today. Society may be more unequal, but even the poorest are better off today then they were in 1970. Or 1980. Or 1990.

    Looking strictly at "inequality metrics" doesn't do justice for what money can buy then, and what it buys today in terms of price and quality.

    But even as much as I gripe about our country, we are still better off then Europe. There is a reason our growth rates have exceeded theirs for the past 30 years. And there is a reason our PPP per capita then every country in the EU except Norway and Luxemberg and there is a reason we have the second median household income in the world behind Luxemberg. So despite all of Europe's rules, regulations, and unions; the average house hold is still better off then almost every single country in the world. But at this point that is subject to change.

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    Re: Is it unreasonable for the wealthiest to pay a little more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Nope, the rich, the ones who are self-made at least, have worked themselves hard to get to that point. They have earned the money they've made and now the middle-class and the poor want to arbitrarily take away the money they worked hard to earn, while many, especially the poor, refuse to work at all. There's something wrong with that.
    See what I mean, we agree.

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