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  • Yes, it should have done this a long time ago.

    25 39.68%
  • If Republicans capitulate on the fiscal cliff, then yes.

    3 4.76%
  • Go ahead, make my day and do this!

    19 30.16%
  • No, out of sheer necessity.

    2 3.17%
  • No, not now, not ever.

    7 11.11%
  • Badger, Badger, Badger, Mushroom, Mushroom!

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    Should the Tea Party form its own political party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    I thought that was their whole point in the first place, to be their own political party.
    No, the point was the threat of it. If they felt they were not being attended to, they offered the threat that they would. Now, the word, Party did not mean political party, but rather an organized front. Women had the NWP, for example, but they never meant to run their own candidates, nor did they.

    They had enough traction for people to pay attention to them for a couple of years. They haven't delivered enough results. Frankly, the Party leadership needs to ameliorate their complaints but also has to weaken their stature.
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    Should the Tea Party form its own political party?

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Maybe they can organize around Second Amendment rights.
    The only single-issue Parties that amounted to much influence were the anti-slavery parties. It takes a hell of an issue be of much use. The second amendment is no such problem yet. Furthermore, it has a well-established and successful organization backing it already.

    Now, if you extend the Tea Party to be really beyond fiscal issues, you run into the inevitable problem of alienation-something that can be observed by what the NRA refuses to do: expand.
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    Re: Should the Tea Party form its own political party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    The Tea Party, strictly speaking, is not a political party. Should this change? Should the Tea Party establish itself as an official political party?
    They need to establish true Conservatism in the Republican Party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    They need to establish true Conservatism in the Republican Party.
    Have the democratic populists lecture everyone about conservatism? That's rich.

    The Tea Partiers can spare us the purity lecture. The conservatism of John Adams, Burke, and Hamilton had been long since abandoned. Hell, most of them believe in the moderate welfare state. All they have to offer is vague semblance of fiscal policies, irresponsibly prefer to cripple the ability of the government to function with a balanced budget amendment, mixed with fanciful rhetoric about how the average person knows better than their leaders, and refuse to accept the art of compromise and instead favor rebelliousness.
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    Re: Should the Tea Party form its own political party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Back-on-course doesn't appear to be the direction the tea party has been steering the GOP since their political influence began after the 2010 election.
    It takes time to get it together enough to get candidates elected. It also takes time (and a good deal of money) to influence the votes of existing candidates. Obama is often cheered for his "help" given to the great loafing class (welfare, in all of its many forms), for allowing the federal income tax rates for the "working class" to remain, reduced to as little as half, what they were under Clinton (often ignored when he derides the "Bush" FIT policy) and he supports unionized labor (well above that of non-union labor). That is his right, yet you seem to ignore that right to any political opposition to these "fair" (actually, simply your prefered) policies.

    That is where your arguments fail, since you refuse to see that doubling the federal deficit differs substantially from Obama's campaign promise to cut the federal deficit in half. Many of the republicants in the Senate, in the wee hours of this morning, voted for a "compromise" deal that had taxation increases to spending cuts expressed at about a 40 to 1 ratio. The Obamatrons see this as good for the nation, a huge "win" for Obama, and yet would never admit that they or Obama do not care one lick about creating an ever more massive federal deficit/debt, so long as they are assured that they will never personnally be called upon to repay it and, of course, continue to get all of their favorite "promised" federal benefits.

    The federal gravy train is fast running out of money even for basic track maintanence. The annual interest on the national debt alone continues to move up the list of major federal gov't expenses/programs. Unlike Greece the US economy is too big to bail.
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    Re: Should the Tea Party form its own political party?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    It takes time to get it together enough to get candidates elected. It also takes time (and a good deal of money) to influence the votes of existing candidates. Obama is often cheered for his "help" given to the great loafing class (welfare, in all of its many forms), for allowing the federal income tax rates for the "working class" to remain, reduced to as little as half, what they were under Clinton (often ignored when he derides the "Bush" FIT policy) and he supports unionized labor (well above that of non-union labor). That is his right, yet you seem to ignore that right to any political opposition to these "fair" (actually, simply your prefered) policies.

    That is where your arguments fail, since you refuse to see that doubling the federal deficit differs substantially from Obama's campaign promise to cut the federal deficit in half. Many of the republicants in the Senate, in the wee hours of this morning, voted for a "compromise" deal that had taxation increases to spending cuts expressed at about a 40 to 1 ratio. The Obamatrons see this as good for the nation, a huge "win" for Obama, and yet would never admit that they or Obama do not care one lick about creating an ever more massive federal deficit/debt, so long as they are assured that they will never personnally be called upon to repay it and, of course, continue to get all of their favorite "promised" federal benefits.

    The federal gravy train is fast running out of money even for basic track maintanence. The annual interest on the national debt alone continues to move up the list of major federal gov't expenses/programs. Unlike Greece the US economy is too big to bail.


    Both sides generate debt, which is why you probably can't name the last Republican Administration that came close to a balanced budget. Its all about spending priorities right now. Some Americans support spending priorities that predominantly benefit the wealthy and many support spending priorities that benefit the working class.

    I'll know the Republicans are serious about our national debt when they agree to stop waging optional wars and spending almost as much on the military as the rest of the world combined.
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    Re: Should the Tea Party form its own political party?

    i'd be happy to see both parties split up, to tell you the truth. the current duopoly doesn't reflect the political views of most Americans, and it just leaves most people feeling pissed off and disenfranchised. we need to tweak the system.

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    Re: Should the Tea Party form its own political party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i'd be happy to see both parties split up, to tell you the truth. the current duopoly doesn't reflect the political views of most Americans, and it just leaves most people feeling pissed off and disenfranchised. we need to tweak the system.

    I don't think it would matter, the split in ideology is among the American people. Therefore with any representative system that divide will still be reflected by our representatives. "We have met the enemy, and he is us!"
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    Re: Should the Tea Party form its own political party?

    No, because they need to stay focused on economics.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: Should the Tea Party form its own political party?

    Well you know how the republican party (currently the worse right now) and the democratic party have trouble defining their base and separating themselves from the complete nut-ball loons? well the TEA-Party would be even worse at it and it would be a complete failure of a party.

    The tea party would go nowhere because its polluted with complete morons and this is how it would "stereotypical" be displayed in media
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