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    Re: Should Congress Fund Disaster Aid for Northeast

    WOW, So many different thoughts floating around. Here is another.
    Of course, the federal government must provide relief in instances of national disasters or events too large for individual states; just as a state provides relief for municipalities that need help recovering from some dire event. and so on, down to the level of a family protecting children that is the basic concept of civilization.
    If the population is secure then a premise/idea behind civilization is that the diversification and division of skills, labor, resources can be accomplished in such a way that basic requirements for life and population maintenance are distributed across the entire population. {formation of governance}
    What is more is that if any catastrophe happens to you, your state, or anybody else's - on a sufficient scale - you would go whining to the Federal government too!

    It may not be clear to you but this is one of the values and qualities that separates our democratic republic from a dictatorship. Unless your friends with the dictator, when a natural disaster occurs your own your own.

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    Re: Should Congress Fund Disaster Aid for Northeast

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Absolutely they should. If this country can spend trillions fighting stupid wars in the MI, we can spend a few billion helping our sisters and brothers in the Northeast.
    Sounds "fair" in principle but the fact is that we ARE fighting stupid wars in the Middle East and can't afford to send relief as well. However, we did raise taxes on the rich so those increases in revenue just paid for this relief. Now we're back at square one.
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    Re: Should Congress Fund Disaster Aid for Northeast

    Well not exactly, the GDP isn't free falling nor in free fall, nor stocks, real estate, nor jobs growth. Even though I have yet to look at some indicators, I sense or IOW, I have the sense that the economy is becoming more robust. More companies are hiring and there appears to be more start-ups. Recent resurgence in collective bargaining in the face of concerted efforts to hold down living wages, and improvements in healthcare coverage are converging to create conditions that perhaps are conducive to sustained above average economic growth.

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    Re: Should Congress Fund Disaster Aid for Northeast

    Quote Originally Posted by amph View Post
    WOW, So many different thoughts floating around. Here is another.
    Of course, the federal government must provide relief in instances of national disasters or events too large for individual states; just as a state provides relief for municipalities that need help recovering from some dire event. and so on, down to the level of a family protecting children that is the basic concept of civilization.
    If the population is secure then a premise/idea behind civilization is that the diversification and division of skills, labor, resources can be accomplished in such a way that basic requirements for life and population maintenance are distributed across the entire population. {formation of governance}
    What is more is that if any catastrophe happens to you, your state, or anybody else's - on a sufficient scale - you would go whining to the Federal government too!

    It may not be clear to you but this is one of the values and qualities that separates our democratic republic from a dictatorship. Unless your friends with the dictator, when a natural disaster occurs your own your own.
    The country is based on a system of law, not values and qualities. Law is what seperates from dictatorship.

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    Re: Should Congress Fund Disaster Aid for Northeast

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I believe that any disaster relief should come with strings attached such as making structures resistant to natural disasters or not building in areas below sea level.
    Again I agree with this Conservative.

    It should be illegal for any "bundling" to occur in any bill.

    Did I mention campaign finance and campaign reform....this is one more area....as it is, our Congress is corrupt.

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    Re: Should Congress Fund Disaster Aid for Northeast

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    You do realize that you just contradicted yourself right? Also providing for the general welfare and common defense of the US doesn't always entail useing guns you know. And as I've said before, major disasters often have far reaching consequences that can affect the entire US and not just to the area hit directly by a disaster.
    I didn't contradict myself. I explained what is meant by general welfare and how it can be used and nothing else. I didn't think I needed to explain common defense, so I didn't. Regardless, you are forgetting that the power has to be granted and no such power is granted that you are talking about.

    If I must explain to you common defense I will, but it seems a bit obvious.

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    Re: Should Congress Fund Disaster Aid for Northeast

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Taking money from someone using force and then giving it to someone else, without the power to do so, is indeed tyranical. Get a clue.
    Oh please. How else do you think the government is going to provide its services to the people that it serves? Conjure things out of thin air? When you learn how the government works and how it is suppose to accomplish what they do then get back to me. Until then I am done with you.
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    Re: Should Congress Fund Disaster Aid for Northeast

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I didn't contradict myself. I first explained what it meant by the general welfare said how it can be used. I didn't think I needed to explain common defense. Regardless, you are forgetting that the power has to be granted and no such power is granted that you are talking about.
    General welfare and common defense. Not just common defense. The power is there.
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    Re: Should Congress Fund Disaster Aid for Northeast

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    The country is based on a system of law, not values and qualities. Law is what seperates from dictatorship.
    A nation's and its society success depend on much more than "law".
    Values and qualities do matter.
    I am reminded of Charles Dickens line , "are there no workhouses, are there no prisons".

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    Re: Should Congress Fund Disaster Aid for Northeast

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    General welfare and common defense. Not just common defense. The power is there.
    Which I already explained to you what general welfare means. Try harder.

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